Gut epithelial barrier damage caused by dishwasher detergents and rinse aids
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#2It’s endocrine awareness day on Hacker News (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33816861)
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#3So what does this mean for all of us who buy coffee at coffee shops every morning? Will this cause serious problems long term since we are consuming residues of their dishwasher chemicals? One potential solution is to always get your coffee to go, but that probably only partly solves the problem.
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#4Is my reading of the summary correct that it is only (or mainly?) talking about rinse aid and not about the detergent?
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#5So what does this mean for all of us who buy coffee at coffee shops every morning? Will this cause serious problems long term since we are consuming residues of their dishwasher chemicals? One potential solution is to always get your coffee to go, but that probably only partly solves the problem.
Oh I bet that is a frying pan fire thing. The cups are probably endocrine disrupters too with a plastic lining.
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#6Is my reading of the summary correct that it is only (or mainly?) talking about rinse aid and not about the detergent?
Yah, it seemed the same to me.
I don't use rinse aid, never have, you don't actually need it, you can just let the dishes air dry for slightly longer.
If you have hard water then soften it, rather than use a rinse aid.
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#8So what does this mean for all of us who buy coffee at coffee shops every morning? Will this cause serious problems long term since we are consuming residues of their dishwasher chemicals? One potential solution is to always get your coffee to go, but that probably only partly solves the problem.
There are a lot of things than can go wrong when you order from a restaurant or coffee shop. There could be diseases, bacteria, virus, chemicals or even contaminent such as glass parts or insects. The answer to this question would be to only order from places you trust - and even then, contamination can happen quickly and in invisible ways.
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#9Is my reading of the summary correct that it is only (or mainly?) talking about rinse aid and not about the detergent?
Yah, it seemed the same to me. I don't use rinse aid, never have, you don't actually need it, you can just let the dishes air dry for slightly longer. If you have hard water then soften it, rather than use a rinse aid.
It is talking about professional dishwashers like the ones used in restaurants. So if you dine out on a regular basis you're probably getting exposed to this stuff even if you don't use it at home.
PS I have no chemical expertise, but the article singles out alcohol ethoxylates as the cause of this damage. And while I don't use rinse aid in my home dishwasher, my Cascade dishwasher pods list "Isotridecanol Ethoxylated" as an ingredient, which may be one of these substances? At least this gets rinsed off, though I doubt it gets rinsed completely.
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#10> our results suggest that alcohol ethoxylates were the main culprit component of the rinse aid responsible for the observed toxicity and damage to the epithelial barrier integrity.