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Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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Are you looking for investment? Happy to close the deal, love that idea so much and trust the co-founders redwoodjs ;-)

Unfortunately not anymore, we have a great set of people backing us, but thanks for the vote of confidence. As an aside: Not exactly sure why the parent is getting down voted.

Yeah, that's wierd. I just upvoted you to compensate.

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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Any comparisons to https://www.tonic.ai?

> Based on policies you define, individual fields can be encrypted/decrypted... Are the policies something like "retool" gets tokenized or faked data back, and the main app gets everything? Or is it more granular even within the main app? Like can I teach JumpWire about my app's users and our AuthZ ruleset?

> or they partition the data by putting some fields in a data vault and others in the main database I was considering using VGS to tokenize sensitive data, but I prefer self-hosted and reasonably auditable code for such sensitive systems. Is that the case here?

> We’ve seen entire teams dedicated to just maintaining ETL pipelines for scrubbing PII into secondary databases!

I do this to make staging environments more realistic, which makes them double as debugging tools on production when you can't give engineers any sort of direct production access. We whitelist non-sensitive fields (most importantly foreign keys), and fill in the rest with faked data. The app looks like production, but if all the users were bots who were saying nonsense at each other. At my scale (50 person company), it works reasonably well enough with just me maintaining it.

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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Have you thought about solving the problem from a different direction? Providing a read-only, sanitized clone of the database that can be accessed outside of the core application code? Seems like that could kill more birds with the same stone?

Tonic.ai seemed to fit that bill, but we ended up rolling our own ETL job due to cost concerns, and some security preferences for a simple to audit tool to do this. tonic.ai does it on-the-fly, which was merely a nice-to-have for this use case.

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

#44

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Unfortunately not anymore, we have a great set of people backing us, but thanks for the vote of confidence. As an aside: Not exactly sure why the parent is getting down voted.

Yeah, that's wierd. I just upvoted you to compensate.

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Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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That's exactly what we're doing at https://www.snaplet.dev , I would love to chat with the founders about offering generated production accurate snapshots for developers to code against for users of their proxy!

Happy to chat anytime! You can reach me by email (ryan at [ourdomain]) or book directly on my cal - https://calendly.com/ryan-jump/yc-founder-meeting We've peeked at Snaplet in the past, and :heart: your design aesthetic

Thanks! I'm just about to catch a flight, but will reach out when I get back to the land of the living!

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

#46

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Happy to chat anytime! You can reach me by email (ryan at [ourdomain]) or book directly on my cal - https://calendly.com/ryan-jump/yc-founder-meeting We've peeked at Snaplet in the past, and :heart: your design aesthetic

Thanks! I'm just about to catch a flight, but will reach out when I get back to the land of the living!

Sounds good, travel safe

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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Any comparisons to https://www.tonic.ai ? > Based on policies you define, individual fields can be encrypted/decrypted... Are the policies something like "retool" gets tokenized or faked data back, and the main app gets everything? Or is it more granular even within the main app? Like can I teach JumpWire about my app's users and our AuthZ ruleset? > or they partition the data by putting some fields in a data vault a…

Tonic is awesome! We think of synthetic data/differential privacy as a different use case - trying to replicate data across scoped environments while preserving certain properties or distributions of the entire data set. There is a security/privacy component from scrubbing the data, but the original data source is unmodified, and that's where we feel risk lies. And the desired outcome isn't to add security but to produce a data set that "looks like" the original well enough for testing/modeling/analytics.

> Are the policies something like "retool" gets tokenized or faked data back, and the main app gets everything?

Yep, that's exactly right. Application credentials are grouped under classifications, and policies can be included/excluded across classifications. We aren't passing authz through JumpWire but for something like Retool you can configure it to connect through different proxies for different users.

> I prefer self-hosted and reasonably auditable code for such sensitive systems. Is that the case here?

Exactly. The engine which interacts with your data is almost always self-hosted, and the web app also can be if needed.

> At my scale (50 person company), it works reasonably well enough with just me maintaining it.

Makes sense! No reason to add more tools to your stack yet if the custom process isn't too burdensome.

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

#48

Looks great. How do you guys compare to something like Voltage?

The value prop is definitely very similar. I'm not as familiar with Voltage as I am with other solutions, but my understanding is that it requires either using the Voltage database driver (JDBC/ODBC in particular) or an HTTP API. With JumpWire, all of the works happens in an engine proxy that works directly with the database protocols. That makes the integration simpler - any language and connector can be used by jus…

Interesting. Thanks for the explanation.

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

#49

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Are you looking for investment? Happy to close the deal, love that idea so much and trust the co-founders redwoodjs ;-)

Unfortunately not anymore, we have a great set of people backing us, but thanks for the vote of confidence. As an aside: Not exactly sure why the parent is getting down voted.

It's common for startups to hijack competitors' launch threads. Some readers find that distasteful; perhaps that's why there were downvotes.

I'm not saying that your post was such a hijack, but it's difficult to interpret these things accurately, so any post of this kind will always land on a spectrum of responses.

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