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Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by sdoering » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 4:55 PM UTC

dextorious wrote: post #48

revscat wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My list of what should be legally restricted in its availability is as follows: 1) Child pornography End list. National security is not enough of a reason for restrictions. Copyright is not enough of a reason. Further, the assumption that corporations or governments have exclusive moral authority to determine what constitutes impermissible material is, frankly, ridiculous. Giving them the authority to make such decis…

I would add: 2) SEO tips 3) Get things done technique websites to that list.

if Sarcasm --> do.upvote else --> ignore

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Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by X-Istence » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 4:55 PM UTC

I moved my personal 25+ domains away from GoDaddy to name.com and gandi.net. Best move I have ever done. I don't get shitty advertisements emailed to me anymore, I don't have to jump through hundreds of hoops to purchase renewals where I get bombarded with advertisements for various other services.

And name.com is a small company here in Colorado, so I am supporting local while I am at it.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by dextorious » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 4:55 PM UTC

maximusprime wrote: post #16

Please can we at least try to ensure HN doesn't go the way of Reddit? I'm against SOPA as much as the next guy, but it's a moot issue. Browsers will just release new versions that use alternate DNS systems or get past any 'blocks'. There's nothing uglier than an internet hate/protest mob.

"""I'm against SOPA as much as the next guy, but it's a moot issue. Browsers will just release new versions that use alternate DNS systems or get past any 'blocks'."""

I really can't stand this kind of stance.

Technical workarounds are NOT AN ANSWER to law/political problems.

At best, they are a kludge.

At worst, they get illegal, and some people end up in jail.

It's nice to have them, but only as a last refuge.

The number one priority is to have a sensible legal/political system, not to work around it.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by mitchellhislop » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 4:57 PM UTC

maximusprime wrote: post #16

Please can we at least try to ensure HN doesn't go the way of Reddit? I'm against SOPA as much as the next guy, but it's a moot issue. Browsers will just release new versions that use alternate DNS systems or get past any 'blocks'. There's nothing uglier than an internet hate/protest mob.

...except that would be illegal to do under SOPA

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by sunchild » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 4:58 PM UTC

dmerfield wrote: post #19

Serious question: Has anyone in the HN community actually bought anything from GoDaddy? I find it difficult to imagine that any HN reader would. Was there ever an era when GoDaddy's reputation and service were respectable?

While I would never use them for domains, I did buy a $12 SSL cert back when everyone else was charging hundreds of dollars for the same thing. Before someone points me to a free SSL service, this was for an enterprise class application that was more about security theater than actual security. I was able to get away with GoDaddy instead of Verisign, etc. because my client used GoDaddy for their domains – go figure.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by alphadogg » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 4:58 PM UTC

maximusprime wrote: post #16

Please can we at least try to ensure HN doesn't go the way of Reddit? I'm against SOPA as much as the next guy, but it's a moot issue. Browsers will just release new versions that use alternate DNS systems or get past any 'blocks'. There's nothing uglier than an internet hate/protest mob.

The problem with SOPA is not the technological weaknesses, but rather things like anyone can get any other site delisted from popular sources, without judicial process. How are technologists going to help with that? How many regular, not power users who can set up alternate DNS systes, going to enjoy that conundrum?

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by sunchild » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 4:58 PM UTC

emehrkay wrote: post #34

I have a few go daddy domains. Where should I move my .it domains to?

Namecheap, if you can.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by lincolnwebs » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 5:00 PM UTC

I already moved all my domains after their CEO's elephant hunting earlier this year. That company is a pit of depravity.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by nextparadigms » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 5:03 PM UTC

maximusprime wrote: post #41

revscat wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My list of what should be legally restricted in its availability is as follows: 1) Child pornography End list. National security is not enough of a reason for restrictions. Copyright is not enough of a reason. Further, the assumption that corporations or governments have exclusive moral authority to determine what constitutes impermissible material is, frankly, ridiculous. Giving them the authority to make such decis…

I would personally add 2) Websites that are known for mallware, phishing, or otherwise going to mess you up. As I said I don't know if SOPA is good/bad, but my point was that "I support an Open Internet" is a bit of a cop out.

That's a terrible idea. So if someone hacks my site and installs malware, my site should be taken down by the Government?

There are anti-viruses, browser plugins, and even the browsers themselves protect you from stuff like that. You don't need the Government itself to do it, and they wouldn't be any more effective anyway. They would just abuse the power.

Re: GoDaddy supports SOPA, redditor proposes "Move your Domain Day"

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Post by revscat » Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 5:03 PM UTC

Ein2015 wrote: post #53

revscat wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My list of what should be legally restricted in its availability is as follows: 1) Child pornography End list. National security is not enough of a reason for restrictions. Copyright is not enough of a reason. Further, the assumption that corporations or governments have exclusive moral authority to determine what constitutes impermissible material is, frankly, ridiculous. Giving them the authority to make such decis…

Child porn is how .au passed their censorship stuff and it has quickly expanded. Child porn is already illegal and, in my opinion, doesn't need deep cutting censorship bills to combat.

Understood and agreed. Existing statues on child porn are sufficient, and given the tendencies for governments and corporations to expand their abilities at the expense of the people, I would support no new laws, and would be suspicious were any proposed in my country.