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Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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I got rid of my teflon, but I switched to galvanized copper. Its easy to clean.

What's the brand you bought?

I really didn't consider brand. I thought it would be easy enough to determine a copper pan versus a teflon or iron pan that branding wouldn't offer any advantages.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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I am not a man, but this reminds me of a time years ago when I started to have allergic reactions to things several times a day. My allergist put me on a strict elimination diet of triggers. I could only use unscented products for bathing and laundry, organic food only, and I even had to get rid of my teflon pans and use only stainless steel or cast iron. It sucked but it did seem to help, maybe you could try somethi…

Is there any anecdotes or data about the impact of sitting too much? And screen time?

Well if you spend too much time sitting and don't reduce your calorie intake to match, you get fat. Being fat generally does bad things to your health, and one known example of that is that being fat reduces your fertility.

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I did my Master Degree in Organic Chemistry where we tried to develop a male contraceptive pill. I spend a lot of time studying sperm so here is a short list of thing to avoid regarding sperm quality (not ranked): 1. Eating and drinking from plastics (This includes aluminum cans which are plastic lined) [a] 2. Heating food in ANY type of plastic [a] 3. Caffein intake [b] 4. Sugar intake [c] 5. NOT exercising regularl…

9. You just can't win can you?

Eat meat, increase risk of heart disease. Eat soy, decrease fertility.

Life is weird to me. Humans have one of the longest lifespans among mammals, yet we seem to start breaking down not all that far into it. We don't tend to consider 35 "old", as we regularly live 80+ years, and even if you consider the "generally well functioning" span of your life to be your years up to 60 or so, 35 is barely past half way.

Oh well.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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I did my Master Degree in Organic Chemistry where we tried to develop a male contraceptive pill. I spend a lot of time studying sperm so here is a short list of thing to avoid regarding sperm quality (not ranked): 1. Eating and drinking from plastics (This includes aluminum cans which are plastic lined) [a] 2. Heating food in ANY type of plastic [a] 3. Caffein intake [b] 4. Sugar intake [c] 5. NOT exercising regularl…

Amazing! Thanks for the well-researched info. I did not know aluminum cans were lined. I thought the oxide layer is stable enough.

The acid in carbonation will eat the oxide layer, so soft drink cans get a thin plastic lining. Alcohol cans often are not lined.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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I did my Master Degree in Organic Chemistry where we tried to develop a male contraceptive pill. I spend a lot of time studying sperm so here is a short list of thing to avoid regarding sperm quality (not ranked): 1. Eating and drinking from plastics (This includes aluminum cans which are plastic lined) [a] 2. Heating food in ANY type of plastic [a] 3. Caffein intake [b] 4. Sugar intake [c] 5. NOT exercising regularl…

Ah yes, that study of 99 (predominantly overweight) men from an infertility clinic that definitely shows soy affects sperm count. As far as I'm aware the evidence just isn't there with respect to soy and cherry picking the single study that shows some potential link is just helping fuel a dietary myth, would be my view.

Yeah, I feel like the soy myth has been disproven time and time again but won’t die already.

This and seed oils get hit with the exact same playbook, then disregard significant chunks of the world that have zero issues with them.

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I did my Master Degree in Organic Chemistry where we tried to develop a male contraceptive pill. I spend a lot of time studying sperm so here is a short list of thing to avoid regarding sperm quality (not ranked): 1. Eating and drinking from plastics (This includes aluminum cans which are plastic lined) [a] 2. Heating food in ANY type of plastic [a] 3. Caffein intake [b] 4. Sugar intake [c] 5. NOT exercising regularl…

9. You just can't win can you? Eat meat, increase risk of heart disease. Eat soy, decrease fertility. Life is weird to me. Humans have one of the longest lifespans among mammals, yet we seem to start breaking down not all that far into it. We don't tend to consider 35 "old", as we regularly live 80+ years, and even if you consider the "generally well functioning" span of your life to be your years up to 60 or so, 35…

The heart disease thing is probably bogus https://bigthink.com/health/red-meat-cancer-not-health-risk/

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So this trend has been going on for a while now, I looked a bit into it about 5 years ago here's what I found: - Tons of popular and legal products/chemicals are "endocrine disruptors"[1] (fancy term for mess with hormones). - The FDA/EPA doesn't deny that, they don't themselves even really require tests for long-term health effects in humans (too difficult). Instead they give animals a 1000x+ dose and look for immed…

As someone who is too lazy to do their own research on this topic....did you happen to find which products generally contain the most endocrine disruptors?

They'll be in basically all of the plastic around you - since the chemicals do a good job at plasticizing (making plastic less brittle).

If you want a more thorough list, the NIH compiled this

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What are some common endocrine disruptors?

Bisphenol A (BPA) — used to make polycarbonate plastics and epoxy resins, which are found in many plastic products including food storage containers

Dioxins — produced as a byproduct in herbicide production and paper bleaching, they are also released into the environment during waste burning and wildfires

Perchlorate — a by-product of aerospace, weapon, and pharmaceutical industries found in drinking water and fireworks

Perfluoroalkyl and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances (PFAS) — used widely in industrial applications, such as firefighting foams and non-stick pan, paper, and textile coatings

Phthalates — used to make plastics more flexible, they are also found in some food packaging, cosmetics, children’s toys, and medical devices

Phytoestrogens — naturally occurring substances in plants that have hormone-like activity, such as genistein and daidzein that are in soy products, like tofu or soy milk

Polybrominated diphenyl ethers (PBDE) — used to make flame retardants for household products such as furniture foam and carpets

Polychlorinated biphenyls (PCB) — used to make electrical equipment like transformers, and in hydraulic fluids, heat transfer fluids, lubricants, and plasticizers

Triclosan — may be found in some anti-microbial and personal care products, like liquid body wash

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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The thesis of the book 'Countdown' is that this is largely due to widespread plastic and other endocrine disrupting chemicals. I believe this is one of the most important risks to humanity, after climate change, and global war. So far, I've taken some lifestyle changes to combat this: 1) Threw out all of my teflon cooking pans 2) Refuse to consume food in heated plastics 3) Throw out teabags (they have plastics). Use…

Forget teabags, what about the bazillion microplastics that we inhale/ingest every day from clothing and carpeting? Especially nice when your coworker's idea of cleaning up their dusty PC is by using canned air on it indoors...

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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I did my Master Degree in Organic Chemistry where we tried to develop a male contraceptive pill. I spend a lot of time studying sperm so here is a short list of thing to avoid regarding sperm quality (not ranked): 1. Eating and drinking from plastics (This includes aluminum cans which are plastic lined) [a] 2. Heating food in ANY type of plastic [a] 3. Caffein intake [b] 4. Sugar intake [c] 5. NOT exercising regularl…

>short list of thing to avoid

>7. Age

I find this to be the hardest one to avoid!

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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"egg-having partner" is an extreme far left term that tries to work around the hole they dug for themselves involving transgender ideology, that the vast vast majority of the world does not care for. The non-political term is women or wife or female or anything else along those lines.
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