BlackBerry 10 is a failure that won’t be able to compete, company source says
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Re: BlackBerry 10 is a failure that won’t be able to compete, company source says
#2Can anyone shed some light on how this can happen? Don't managers use the product and ensure that it is better than the previous versions? How can they release Playbook OS 2.0 without BBM, email, etc?
Re: BlackBerry 10 is a failure that won’t be able to compete, company source says
#3Can anyone shed some light on how this can happen? Don't managers use the product and ensure that it is better than the previous versions? How can they release Playbook OS 2.0 without BBM, email, etc?
> How can they release Playbook OS 2.0 without BBM, email, etc?
There's multiple Youtube videos of people running native email on Playbook OS 2. I think the article or the anonymous source is calling into question whether email is better on a BB10/Playbook OS 2 or the existing BB devices.
Re: BlackBerry 10 is a failure that won’t be able to compete, company source says
#4As a Playbook owner running OS 2, and a software developer, I agree that there isn't room for a fourth ecosystem of 'native' apps written especially for BB devices.
__Blackberry should stop running to where the ball is, and start running to where it's going to be__
What I would like is the ability to run web apps as proper apps. Ie: make Playbook the best way to consume web apps out there.
- Apple's trying to push native apps that are iOS exclusive.
- Android is from Google, a Java shop.
Both require web developers to shoehorn apps onto them via Titanium or PhoneGap.
- Awesome HTML5 support. PB OS 2 currently has (308 in html5test as of last night)
- Left/right gestures swapping web app windows like PB OS 2 currently swaps between desktop-style apps. No desktop-style tabs.
- Use the high resolution icons on my site, rather than snapshots of the UI.
- Focus on webworks as the primary SDK, ditch Air & Java/Android completely.
If you wrapped up the mobile gmail this way, it'd be as seamless as a 'native' app and a better experience than competing tablets.
Re: BlackBerry 10 is a failure that won’t be able to compete, company source says
#5As a Playbook owner running OS 2, and a software developer, I agree that there isn't room for a fourth ecosystem of 'native' apps written especially for BB devices. __Blackberry should stop running to where the ball is, and start running to where it's going to be__ What I would like is the ability to run web apps as proper apps. Ie: make Playbook the best way to consume web apps out there. - Apple's trying to push na…
Any other specific things that would make web application better or specifically what would you use if it was there?
One thing I am proud of is the addition of inspector built in. Turning on inspector, browsing to my web apps on the device and on my desktop having the full webkit inspector is very handy for debugging stuff you can't debug on the desktop such as touch events. One of those features that as soon as you have you can never go back. http://www.berryreview.com/2011/04/15/hot-webkit-web-inspect...
Re: BlackBerry 10 is a failure that won’t be able to compete, company source says
#6Bad products, horrible software
That seems strongly overstated. I don't use a BlackBerry, but nothing about RIM's products strikes me as bad or horrible. They are, at worst, uninspired products in a market with much stronger competitors.
I get the strong feeling that many in tech want RIM to crash and burn as spectacularly as possible - I can swear there's a lot of schadenfreude in all these articles, and I can't figure out why there's so much anger towards RIM. It seems counterproductive, I would much rather see them sticking around and becoming a strong competitor.
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#7Maybe WebOS running on QNX might have been a good move. WebOS has been universally appreciated for the UI and UX (whereas OSes from RIM are not particularly well known for UX).
The SDK is also very friendly to web developers because Enyo is mostly HTML + JS, that will allow it to compete in the app space while being the 4th ecosystem. I do know that WebOS came on sale too late for RIM to use it on the Playbook.
Improving the horrible dev experience will go a long way towards the success of the platform. The dev tools are just atrocious by today's standards.
A must read letter to the management from an employee
http://www.bgr.com/2011/06/30/open-letter-to-blackberry-boss...
Pretty prescient.
Re: BlackBerry 10 is a failure that won’t be able to compete, company source says
#8Seems like a decent executive would have started a division running Android with Blackberry customizations a while back.
Re: BlackBerry 10 is a failure that won’t be able to compete, company source says
#9Bad products, horrible software That seems strongly overstated. I don't use a BlackBerry, but nothing about RIM's products strikes me as bad or horrible. They are, at worst, uninspired products in a market with much stronger competitors. I get the strong feeling that many in tech want RIM to crash and burn as spectacularly as possible - I can swear there's a lot of schadenfreude in all these articles, and I can't fig…
You said it yourself you don't use a blackberry, so your comment doesn't exactly reflect on reality. I use a blackberry and I can confirm it's the worse phone I have ever had. It's missing features that my other 5 year old phone has, almost pathetic. To tap this, their prices are over the top. Personally, I don't think that article exaggerates anything.
I don't know why people want RIM to fail but I bet they will fail if they won't make a drastic change.
Re: BlackBerry 10 is a failure that won’t be able to compete, company source says
#10Really amazing how quickly they slid after Android and iOS took off. I would not have believed it had I not witnessed it. It's really a lesson to all established technologies... you can fall faster than you ever realized.