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Android has had this from day one(?) and it has never been an issue.
Except the velvet lined iron fist called Google Play Services which gatekeeps the apps from having nice things or not.
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I keep hearing this very bad excuse. If that’s the only reason that developers make iOS apps, where are the developers who are making iOS apps and just telling Android users to go to the web?
How is it a "bad excuse?" it's literally true that Apple hobble PWAs compared to other platforms.
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Yes HN chicken littles have been saying that Apple is going to force all apps to go through the Mac App Store since it was introduced in 2010.
We "HN chicken littles" were also saying that Microsoft is gonna force Secure Boot harder and harder to close the hardware ecosystem for Linux, and we're almost there. Being skeptical, and critical is important. This skepticism, criticizing and warning caused Apple to at least postpone their CSAM scan and reconsider their algorithms. We need to talk, and talk indeed openly about the things we don't like. Otherwise we…
Meanwhile the only PC I own is a Steam Deck.
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We "HN chicken littles" were also saying that Microsoft is gonna force Secure Boot harder and harder to close the hardware ecosystem for Linux, and we're almost there. Being skeptical, and critical is important. This skepticism, criticizing and warning caused Apple to at least postpone their CSAM scan and reconsider their algorithms. We need to talk, and talk indeed openly about the things we don't like. Otherwise we…
Microsoft is not Apple. Their corporate culture is different, their revenue sources are different, and their incentives and motivations are different. "But we said Microsoft would do this bad thing, and then they did it!" is not a valid argument for why we should believe "But we've been saying for 12 years that Apple will do this bad thing Any Day Now™! They haven't yet, but it'll definitely happen Very Soon, just yo…
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Files were able to be exchanged between Macs and Windows PCs as far back as 1990. The Mac came with an extension to read DOS formatted disk.
Technically correct, but no one had these things
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Nobody's reported seeing that sort of network traffic sent off of iOS devices. It's trivially easy to spot it, and it's well documented, going to Google and others across the web, though.
> " It's trivially easy to spot" Is it? How exactly are encrypted payloads to a secure, opaque and generic endpoint easy to distinguish?
For spotting it going to Apple you'd have to do more fancy correlation over time and such, but you can find people out there who are researching this stuff... so that's who I'm waiting for to hear more from.
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How is it a "bad excuse?" it's literally true that Apple hobble PWAs compared to other platforms.
Then why aren’t developers eschewing the Google Play Store and just telling users to use their website?
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Would giving people the ability to opt out of Apple's ultra-managed experience and take more control over their device harm your ability to continue to enjoy those benefits? I heard an argument like this a lot at the start of discussions about whether we should be able to choose to WFH in the longer term. "I don't want to WFH because..." Ok, sure, but nobody is trying to force you to. It might just be me, and I'll de…
> Would giving people the ability to opt out of Apple's ultra-managed experience and take more control over their device harm your ability to continue to enjoy those benefits? Not OP but yeah, I think it would. Im currently an android user because I thought it wouldn't, but in practice it does. The most explicit example is that despite owning a flagship phone from a flagship manufacturer, the Google suite of apps don…
I personally have never used a Samsung device, but from I've read, I feel like Samsung phones are trying to be their own OS and do as much as they can to hide the fact that they're running Google's Android OS.
It's similar to the same way MacOS tries to hide the fact that it's Unix under the hood and hides all the Unix directories (/usr, /bin, etc.) in the Finder by default.
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Then why aren’t developers eschewing the Google Play Store and just telling users to use their website?
Some revenue is better than no revenue. Doesn't mean some people can't be annoyed at what's basically a startup tax levied on them.
And most startups are creating B2B services where you pay for the service outside of the App Store.
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Some revenue is better than no revenue. Doesn't mean some people can't be annoyed at what's basically a startup tax levied on them.
What do you mean “some revenue”? The question is if PWAs are good enough on every other platform, why spend the development time and money to create apps? And most startups are creating B2B services where you pay for the service outside of the App Store.