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Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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Nice! I've been using a plugin [1] for Prisma that does something similar, but this sounds much more comprehensive. [1] https://github.com/47ng/prisma-field-encryption

Thanks! The plugin is pretty nice if you're sticking to just Prisma for your backends. Always happy to chat about your use case or give a demo of how JumpWire compares if you're interested.

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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I suppose your company in theory could read all the incoming data? Could engineers at my company decrypt the data? Or are the keys not available to us?

I suppose its more about ensuring the data sitting around in the DB isn't exposed to random employees or hackers yeah?

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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What's the risk to your business of other data security companies (like BigID) offering this kind of functionality?

We see BigID and others in the data governance space focusing on cataloging schemas and identifying risks around access to data that violates policies. In cases where remediation requires a technical change, such as tokenizing data before sending to a third-party API, JumpWire offers a solution that doesn't require engineering to re-architect their systems.

Of course BigID could build their own technical controls for customers to install, but I'm seeing more partnerships happening in the space - Cyera and Wiz recently announced a tighter product integration [1].

There's also problems of offering a solution over SaaS. We believe a proxy must run in our customers' network for low latency, as well as the added security of data isolated to a VPC.

[1] https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cyera-and-wiz-partn...

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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Have you thought about solving the problem from a different direction? Providing a read-only, sanitized clone of the database that can be accessed outside of the core application code? Seems like that could kill more birds with the same stone?

That's exactly what we're doing at https://www.snaplet.dev, I would love to chat with the founders about offering generated production accurate snapshots for developers to code against for users of their proxy!

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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I've worked with systems like this in the past. It becomes a huge burden eventually when you have teams like marketing, analytics, etc that need access to the raw data and you eventually have to store all this stuff somewhere else unencrypted.

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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post #22

I suppose your company in theory could read all the incoming data? Could engineers at my company decrypt the data? Or are the keys not available to us? I suppose its more about ensuring the data sitting around in the DB isn't exposed to random employees or hackers yeah?

Maybe read the post before commenting? They answer all your points in it.

The proxy layer is self-hosted, the UI can be self-hosted and the keys are your own AWS KMS keys.

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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post #3

Have you thought about solving the problem from a different direction? Providing a read-only, sanitized clone of the database that can be accessed outside of the core application code? Seems like that could kill more birds with the same stone?

That's exactly what we're doing at https://www.snaplet.dev , I would love to chat with the founders about offering generated production accurate snapshots for developers to code against for users of their proxy!

Are you looking for investment? Happy to close the deal, love that idea so much and trust the co-founders redwoodjs ;-)

Re: Launch HN: JumpWire (YC W22) – Easily encrypt customer data in your databases

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post #22

I suppose your company in theory could read all the incoming data? Could engineers at my company decrypt the data? Or are the keys not available to us? I suppose its more about ensuring the data sitting around in the DB isn't exposed to random employees or hackers yeah?

Our engine is self-hosted, so all of the data is kept local to your network and we can't read any of it. Concerns about data access and query latency are the two biggest reasons we decided to take the self-hosted approach.

Whether engineers can access the keys and decrypt data depends on your setup. The engine can use either AWS KMS or Vault for top-level key management, so if an engineer has full permissions over those then they could get the keys out. We can also host the keys in our infrastructure and sync them over to the engine if you're comfortable with that tradeoff.

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