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UC Berkeley chooses Google apps over office 365 based on this analysis

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Re: UC Berkeley chooses Google apps over office 365 based on this analysis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they do. But that shouldn't be surprising.

Well, I mean I know they are Google and all- but I can't imagine Gmail and Gcal supporting a corporate user very effectively. I use it for my personal stuff, but I am extremely appreciative of Exchange at work.

Can you expand on why?

* Update: Specifically for you, rather than in the wider sense; how does Exchange make /your/ life easier?

Re: UC Berkeley chooses Google apps over office 365 based on this analysis

#42

It strikes me as accurate. Google apps is better for mail, and Microsoft is the cats ass when it comes to calendaring. If you are the secretary who must schedule 20 execs for a meeting the first Wednesday of every month, then there is nothing better than Outlook/Exchange. Thank god I no longer live in a world where I am tied to my calendar. As google gets bigger, google calendar will get better, and the worse it will…

> It strikes me as accurate. Google apps is better for mail, and Microsoft is the cats ass when it comes to calendaring. If you are the secretary who must schedule 20 execs for a meeting the first Wednesday of every month, then there is nothing better than Outlook/Exchange.

Really? A bunch of things about Outlook calendering drives me up the wall. I can't find a way to tell it that I've attended an event just dismissing the late notice. Also just the other day it prompted me with a late notice about a cancelled weekly meeting.

Re: UC Berkeley chooses Google apps over office 365 based on this analysis

#43

I am Google Apps addict but they still don't have a web-based Excel-killer. I think that when bankers and corporates start using Google apps to build their financial models then Microsoft should worry.

This is true.

I've seen entire hedge funds run on excel sheets. Our traders do alot of trading right out of excel sheets with custom C# addin's.

Re: UC Berkeley chooses Google apps over office 365 based on this analysis

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post #42

It strikes me as accurate. Google apps is better for mail, and Microsoft is the cats ass when it comes to calendaring. If you are the secretary who must schedule 20 execs for a meeting the first Wednesday of every month, then there is nothing better than Outlook/Exchange. Thank god I no longer live in a world where I am tied to my calendar. As google gets bigger, google calendar will get better, and the worse it will…

> It strikes me as accurate. Google apps is better for mail, and Microsoft is the cats ass when it comes to calendaring. If you are the secretary who must schedule 20 execs for a meeting the first Wednesday of every month, then there is nothing better than Outlook/Exchange. Really? A bunch of things about Outlook calendering drives me up the wall. I can't find a way to tell it that I've attended an event just dismiss…

> Also just the other day it prompted me with a late notice about a cancelled weekly meeting.

Isn't that just user error (failure by someone to send out a cancellation notice)?

Re: UC Berkeley chooses Google apps over office 365 based on this analysis

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I've always found these large organizational analyses to look completely sound and well-reasoned on paper, yet never really align with reality when deployments start going up.

IIRC, the City of Los Angeles did a similar evaluation, yet they shuttled a migration to Google due to security concerns.

In less-public implementations, I've seen planned migrations from MS to Google Apps dropped after pilot tests, mostly due to user complaints about usability.

I don't fault MS or Google in any of these areas, but rather those conducting the analysis.

Re: UC Berkeley chooses Google apps over office 365 based on this analysis

#46
post #44
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It strikes me as accurate. Google apps is better for mail, and Microsoft is the cats ass when it comes to calendaring. If you are the secretary who must schedule 20 execs for a meeting the first Wednesday of every month, then there is nothing better than Outlook/Exchange. Really? A bunch of things about Outlook calendering drives me up the wall. I can't find a way to tell it that I've attended an event just dismiss…

> Also just the other day it prompted me with a late notice about a cancelled weekly meeting. Isn't that just user error (failure by someone to send out a cancellation notice)?

Pretty well known ux flaw, when someone forwards you a meeting in outlook, then cancels it, none of the forwarded attendees receive notice.

Re: UC Berkeley chooses Google apps over office 365 based on this analysis

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Calendar seems to have a similar featureset to that of Outlook. You can put appointments on other people's calendars and you can schedule rooms, anyway. And, at Google, the conference rooms have motion sensors that allow the room reservation system to "garbage collect" unused rooms. (You also get an LED indication of whether or not you'll be running into someone else's time if your meeting runs late. Gotta love the h…

Who makes these devices?

I've worked at a company that had these deployed. They were actually quite nice. In the rare event they failed, it was quickly resolved as everyone could see the LED that would turn to green/red/yellow that people nicknamed "the worm". http://www.steelcase.com/en/products/category/integrated/col...

Re: UC Berkeley chooses Google apps over office 365 based on this analysis

#48

I've always found these large organizational analyses to look completely sound and well-reasoned on paper, yet never really align with reality when deployments start going up. IIRC, the City of Los Angeles did a similar evaluation, yet they shuttled a migration to Google due to security concerns. In less-public implementations, I've seen planned migrations from MS to Google Apps dropped after pilot tests, mostly due…

> IIRC, the City of Los Angeles did a similar evaluation, yet they shuttled a migration to Google due to security concerns.

Actually most of the city is using Google Apps and the contract has been renewed. The LAPD decided it wanted additional security and hasn't migrated yet.

Re: UC Berkeley chooses Google apps over office 365 based on this analysis

#49
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they do. But that shouldn't be surprising.

Well, I mean I know they are Google and all- but I can't imagine Gmail and Gcal supporting a corporate user very effectively. I use it for my personal stuff, but I am extremely appreciative of Exchange at work.

Works pretty well, actually. Calendar isn't perfect, but I personally prefer the UI to exchange.

Re: UC Berkeley chooses Google apps over office 365 based on this analysis

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I think they got it wrong, Google offerings SUCK (REALLY BAD) when it comes to collaboration. In a large organization like UCB, I wonder why they don't use any collab tools? "Both Google/Microsoft offerings were NOT reviewed" "These applications were not extensively reviewed during this process, but are already used in other departments for teaching and learning purposes." "Office 365 comes with its Office online app…

I thought research hub had collaboration spaces for labs https://hub.berkeley.edu/
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