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Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Post by JPKab »

francisofascii wrote: post #296
Arete314159 wrote: post #121

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I read an interesting study on this. It showed that obesity rates were lower in places like Colorado, and theorized that the reason was that they were at the headwaters of their water source, so there was less opportunity for contaminants to enter their water.

That is interesting, but probably the reason is the highly active/outdoor culture of Colorado leads to lower obesity rates and people who are less obese move to Colorado.

Nope. It's altitude. I live in Colorado.

The science on this altitude effect has been pretty thoroughly conducted, with potential correlating factors accounted for in multivariate regression models.

Denver and its suburbs are FILLED with people who are as unhealthy and inactive as the rest of the country. Even in these places, in the poorest neighborhoods, they are less obese.

I have an identical twin brother who lives in Portland, and since I've moved here I've stayed about 10-15 lbs lighter than him. It's a single, anecdotal data point, and completely unscientific, but he swears he eats healthier than me lol.

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Post by gniv »

DevX101 wrote: post #158

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I've given up making sousvide anything for the same reason.

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Post by marcus0x62 »

richbell wrote: post #71
ghiculescu wrote: post #24

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I read both links. This one sounds like a bunch of woke people unhappy that mens health is getting attention. The other study sounds legitimate.

I thought you were being hyperbolic but the linked article and study does seem to miss the forest for the trees. Surely it's possible to acknowledge the flaws of a measure without devolving into ideological and cultural warfare? > In addition, they argued that the design of the 2017 study relied on racist and colonial hierarchies and assumptions because it categorized data as “Western” sperm counts or “Other” sperm c…

> Surely it's possible to acknowledge the flaws of a measure without devolving into ideological and cultural warfare?

When a professor of linguistics decides it is appropriate to write a paper criticizing a study about falling sperm counts, I don’t think that is a safe bet.

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Post by hungryforcodes »

notch656a wrote: post #325
2-718-281-828 wrote: post #314

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I'll rather hang myself then going to a nursery home now and even more so in the future. I'm living a happy life and looking forward to tomorrow - and yet I am dead serious about that. I've seen enough people in those places. Did you notice that one thing you learned while growing up and maturing was that you started to notice when the party is over and it's time to leave instead of hanging on until the very dire end…

Something like 95% of suicides fail and then they'll toss you into a home or someplace terrible to keep you from doing it again.

So I have to suffer a lifetime of kids just for this vague possibility? No thanks.

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Post by moistofreason »

simonswords82 wrote: post #251

Is this not a net positive thing given that the world just hit 8bn people and is clearly overpopulated?

Given trends in birth rate and fertility, we are much more likely to have an under-population / geriatric population problem than an overpopulation problem.

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Post by goatcode »

compiskey wrote: post #12

But are they? https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/05/fears-over-fa...

>This framework is designed to take into account a wide range of locations, individual conditions, and other data that can contribute to changing trends in sperm counts.

So, just count everyone and diminish the geographical factor in a problem. OK, let's ignore the problem until everyone is affected. Seems pretty un-legit.

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Post by JPKab »

patall wrote: post #138
JPKab wrote: post #43

The lack of federally funded research on this topic is astounding. It's been like this for a long time, but ignored. Even more notably has been the lack of curiosity from the media and academia. They simply shrug and move on, as if the root cause of this isn't something we should look into as potentially causing other problems that are even worse. Edit: The downvotes without any comment refuting this highlight the is…

How do you determine that? As far as I have heard from people working in fertilization clinics, they can help pretty much all couples that have problems with conceiving due to male fertility issues. You need to go there in the first place, but once you request help, you get it.

So that's your take?

"This thing that humans have done for eons without medical assistance now requires it and that's totally fine. Nothing to see here."

Really?

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Post by nisegami »

zild3d wrote: post #359
nisegami wrote: post #330

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Out of curiosity, do you wish you weren't born, and if so why not end it?

It's certainly preferable that I were never born. But suicide is not the same as never having been. Right now, the marginal utility of living another day is not always negative, but I expect that to change as my physical health deteriorates in the coming years. Once that changes, I'll revisit the suicide issue.

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

francisofascii wrote: post #296
Arete314159 wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read an interesting study on this. It showed that obesity rates were lower in places like Colorado, and theorized that the reason was that they were at the headwaters of their water source, so there was less opportunity for contaminants to enter their water.

That is interesting, but probably the reason is the highly active/outdoor culture of Colorado leads to lower obesity rates and people who are less obese move to Colorado.

In the article series I think parent is referencing[0] they talk about Colorado along with a bunch of other things people come up with based on "common sense".

Notably higher altitude alone seems highly correlated with lower obesity and diabetes rates regardless of physical activity. Again, this points to environmental factors.

[0] https://slimemoldtimemold.com/2021/07/07/a-chemical-hunger-p...

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