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Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Lifting heavy objects seems to be the best way. Start where you are at, or below. Lift every other day. Increasing should be relatively easy in the beginning.

Just have to remember to put them back down too

Thanks for the tip, I was wondering why I was getting weird looks from people seeing me walk with the barbell on the street.

Now I fee like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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It is interesting, I have a friend group that consists of about 5 married couples all of whom have been having issues conceiving and have been trying for a while now, but are still having issues. Curiously enough my wife and I just had our 4th and every time we've conceived within two months (even when I was hoping it would take a little longer). From what I hear our friends story is not unusual and many in our age b…

I'm a Catholic and fairly traditionally minded and am surprised by what you're saying since at my church, couples in this age range are on their fourth or fifth kid by the time they're 30. Even amongst the newest married couples, most are expecting within the first year. I understand we have different beliefs and such but since we're all in the same environment, how do we explain the simultaneous existence of the see…

> are on their fourth or fifth kid by the time they're 30.

That's the difference. Couples that plan explicitly typically don't plan their firstborn before 30.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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I had a test recently and I have 0% "normal" sperms, when 4%-14% is the normal range. Pretty radical. The doctor said to take vitamins, to get testosterone to normal level, and to excercise. In other words not much to do

That seems like quite a lot to do. What I get from that advice is a recommendation to effectively change all of your lifestyle.

I'd argue TRT (to raise testosterone) is a pretty drastic recommendation.

Not that it is bad or dangerous. It just points to the OP being at the stage where their hormones needs to be medicinally managed.

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Along with the rise of age of adulthood and general hysteria, i would think they are all correlated. But whether sperm counts are falling or not we need more funding towards artificial reproduction and extracorporal pregnancies, it s such a non-brainer for our fragile and unique species.

> But whether sperm counts are falling or not we need more funding towards artificial reproduction and extracorporal pregnancies Seems like a pretty extreme solution to the problem of declining birth rates. Perhaps we’d be better served by encouraging people to reproduce through financial incentives and, frankly, positive propaganda. Part of the problem is that young folks feel like raising children is financially bu…

those things are popular in america but the US doesnt even have a big birth rate issue. Some of the most pro-welfare countries are having the worst crisis in europe. I dont think financial help would do. People really now consider children to be more somewhat a burden to things they want to do in life. I think it was all deliberate, not a forced hand

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> the potential impact of the increased difficulty in having children is. Less people in the world. Look at Japan and South Korean population projections out 50 to 75 years -- they may cut their populations in half, and it could keep going? Hard to extrapolate trends out that far though...

Sorry, but isn't that a good thing? Putting aside the fact that we're (at least in Europe) paying for a pension fund we'll never have, isn't reducing the amount of people on earth the right solution for basically all problems long term?

Not if it’s unequal, and infertility is a cruel way to lower the population. Wanting kids and struggling to have them absolutely wrecks you emotionally, and it’s even worse for women.

But also, if it’s chemically related it might hit first world countries harder than third world countries. Imagine what would happen if all aid was cut to Africa.

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It is interesting, I have a friend group that consists of about 5 married couples all of whom have been having issues conceiving and have been trying for a while now, but are still having issues. Curiously enough my wife and I just had our 4th and every time we've conceived within two months (even when I was hoping it would take a little longer). From what I hear our friends story is not unusual and many in our age b…

I'm a Catholic and fairly traditionally minded and am surprised by what you're saying since at my church, couples in this age range are on their fourth or fifth kid by the time they're 30. Even amongst the newest married couples, most are expecting within the first year. I understand we have different beliefs and such but since we're all in the same environment, how do we explain the simultaneous existence of the see…

Age matters massively. People getting married in their 30s and trying to conceive in their mid-30s are going to have a much harder time than young people in their early and mid 20s. It's really not a linear drop off in terms of difficulty either - it's fairly exponential.

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My wife and I have a beautiful daughter about to turn 2. But she wouldn't have existed if it weren't for IVF (in vitro fertilization). Had to stab her stomach with needles for a while to make hormones to mass produce eggs and then they took my sperm to put into her eggs and see which ones took. Five viable pairings happened. Three were put into her and out came the one kid. Other two are in cryo for future use, and h…

What did it cost? My understanding is that it is not cheap.

Around $20k out of pocket for IVF with ICSI when I did it. Most of that (~12k) was the drugs.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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It is interesting, I have a friend group that consists of about 5 married couples all of whom have been having issues conceiving and have been trying for a while now, but are still having issues. Curiously enough my wife and I just had our 4th and every time we've conceived within two months (even when I was hoping it would take a little longer). From what I hear our friends story is not unusual and many in our age b…

n=1 but with my daughter we had issues and ended up resorting to IVF. During the "issues" phase my count was tested and was considered good...problem is/was on my wife's side...all to say conception issues aren't all down to sperm counts (not that you implied that, just wanted it out there).

That’s true, but keep in mind there are issues that can happen on the women’s side where you having twice as many sperm could brute force their way past it. One example would be her immune system attacking your sperm.

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I agree with you, but I don't know how helpful this will end up being. Endocrine disruptors are airborne and globally ubiquitous in the form of micro-plastics. All drinking water in the world is contaminated with it. [1] I'm really not meaning to be dramatic on this, but we've completely missed the boat on this one while we were arguing about climate change, and it's much too late to do anything about it now.[2] I'll…

I'll let the chemistry people comment on this one but phtalates are used as a 'plasticizer' they are not plastic itself as in a micro-plastic bead I am not sure how much of these plasticizers survives on the microplastic that you refer to. in our water supply or in airborne polyester fibers? Those are major sources of microplastic contamination but I am not sure they are major sources of _plasticizer_ contamination.…

>This is one of the problems, we are missing studies that can demonstrate sources and source contribution to this problem.

This is why I hate when people compare climate change to other problems (like GP did).

Sure, there's a lot of microplastics out there, but the science is still out on what that means for us. Meanwhile we know how bad Climate Change is, so if we have limited resources to fight problems, definitely fight the one you know is bad, even if it's not as engaging as thinking about your own sperm.

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Pornhub causing the fall of civilization and not nuclear proliferation or global warming? That's a new one.

You clearly don't hang out with enough catholics & evangelicals. In all seriousness this is a mainstream-ish opinion in some religious circles.

Meanwhile nothing is more pro-procreation than showing people the most fun ways to do it
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