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Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Post by prox »

david422 wrote: post #136
prox wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be massively in favour of adding a QR Code that details as much as possible (without giving away trade secrets if that is possible) where and how something is sourced and then adding how it was processed. Much like you get a track and trace with a package.

That's a pretty clever idea. I like it! There is limited package space on items, this would allow producers to document a whole lot of info and allow consumers immediate access.

The idea actually comes from when I followed CJ Chivers (expert on weapons and war correspondent) A lot of his work is done by gathering spent munitions on the battlefield and then tracing it back to its source. The life of a weapon and munitions is usually well documented (and can go back decades!)

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Post by beowulfey »

kneebonian wrote: post #39

It is interesting, I have a friend group that consists of about 5 married couples all of whom have been having issues conceiving and have been trying for a while now, but are still having issues. Curiously enough my wife and I just had our 4th and every time we've conceived within two months (even when I was hoping it would take a little longer). From what I hear our friends story is not unusual and many in our age b…

I think many people would be surprised at how many couples have done IVF recently… I wish I had reliable numbers for it.

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Post by justsocrateasin »

alexsereno wrote: post #104
ghiculescu wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read both links. This one sounds like a bunch of woke people unhappy that mens health is getting attention. The other study sounds legitimate.

It’s going to be a real adjustment for a lot of these people to grasp that young American men are in really difficult situations socially, academically, and that it’s a key factor to underemployment, violence, etc… the concept of men’s health or men suffering feels like an attack to these people instead of a separate legitimate issue to other social topics they find important

Curious if you have sources for this. I agree wholeheartedly that there are some difficult issues affecting men, socially and academically, but always struggle to back that opinion up with any meaningful facts/figures.

As one of my friends said, "Positions of power are still predominantly held by men, but the average man is lagging behind the average woman". Not sure if this is necessarily true, but sometimes it feels true. It's also unfortunately a rather un-PC opinion to share.

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Post by aspyct »

bhouston wrote: post #69
kneebonian wrote: post #39

It is interesting, I have a friend group that consists of about 5 married couples all of whom have been having issues conceiving and have been trying for a while now, but are still having issues. Curiously enough my wife and I just had our 4th and every time we've conceived within two months (even when I was hoping it would take a little longer). From what I hear our friends story is not unusual and many in our age b…

> the potential impact of the increased difficulty in having children is. Less people in the world. Look at Japan and South Korean population projections out 50 to 75 years -- they may cut their populations in half, and it could keep going? Hard to extrapolate trends out that far though...

Sorry, but isn't that a good thing? Putting aside the fact that we're (at least in Europe) paying for a pension fund we'll never have, isn't reducing the amount of people on earth the right solution for basically all problems long term?

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Post by est31 »

rayiner wrote: post #16
toomuchtodo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have enough investments and fiat to not be the poor sucker who can’t pay for help end of life as the young, productive cohort compresses.

Unless you’re investing in canned soup and ammo, you need young people working for those retirement “savings” to be worth anything. The modern retirement system is merely an additional layer of indirection over the traditional system of kids taking care of their elderly parents.

Yeah, if the number of people shrinks, so does the size of a market, and so do revenues of companies. If you own stocks, those will be worth less. If the number of people shrinks, so does the demand for living space, and the value of your apartment goes down. Etc.

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Post by xienze »

seydor wrote: post #87

Along with the rise of age of adulthood and general hysteria, i would think they are all correlated. But whether sperm counts are falling or not we need more funding towards artificial reproduction and extracorporal pregnancies, it s such a non-brainer for our fragile and unique species.

> But whether sperm counts are falling or not we need more funding towards artificial reproduction and extracorporal pregnancies

Seems like a pretty extreme solution to the problem of declining birth rates. Perhaps we’d be better served by encouraging people to reproduce through financial incentives and, frankly, positive propaganda.

Part of the problem is that young folks feel like raising children is financially burdensome (fine), but IMO a bigger part of the problem is the presence of negative propaganda (having kids is destroying the earth, having kids sucks, wouldn’t you rather chase your career and party with friends every night?, etc.)

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Post by godshatter »

highwaylights wrote: post #28
pmoriarty wrote: post #3

Great news for people like me who don't want to reproduce.

I’m hoping this was said in jest but this is definitely not great news for you, and will only make the demographic cliff even steeper. Assuming you at some point want to be alive when no longer young this is something to be alarmed by, as there simply aren’t going to be enough work-capable people around to keep the machinery of society functioning while still supporting those who have aged-out of the working aged pop…

The machinery of society will presumably evolve to match the number of work-capable people. Automation will likely increase, efficiencies will be found, some services will be cut.

From my perspective (I'm in my 50s) things have been spiraling out of control for a while now. Do we really need a couple of dozen flavors of Mountain Dew? Must I be inundated with advertisements for crap I'll never buy even when going to extraordinary lengths to minimize them? Do we all need a three bedroom house with a three car garage? Do I really need a 200 game backlog on steam?

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Post by artursapek »

phkahler wrote: post #58
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>to get testosterone to normal level, How does one do that exactly?

Lifting heavy objects seems to be the best way. Start where you are at, or below. Lift every other day. Increasing should be relatively easy in the beginning.

Just have to remember to put them back down too

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Post by dibt »

kneebonian wrote: post #39

It is interesting, I have a friend group that consists of about 5 married couples all of whom have been having issues conceiving and have been trying for a while now, but are still having issues. Curiously enough my wife and I just had our 4th and every time we've conceived within two months (even when I was hoping it would take a little longer). From what I hear our friends story is not unusual and many in our age b…

> many in our age bracket 20-30 year olds are struggling to have children

Wow... I would have thought you were referring to people that were older.

I wonder what the common denominator is there, or if your experience is an outlier. It's obviously noteworthy enough to share. Maybe people that conceive without issue aren't commenting on it as much?

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Post by starkd »

standardUser wrote: post #128
Bubble_Pop_22 wrote: post #86

Now we only need a vaccine against HIV and STDs in general and we can finally do away with condoms.

I can't remember the last time I talked to a gay man who wasn't on PrEP. It's arguable that in reasonably responsible circles, HIV these days poses little-to-no risk, even among sexually promiscuous people. And most other common STDs are completely curable. The big exception is herpes, the spread of which is not prevented by condoms.

Those HIV medicines tend to wane in efficacy, so they still end up dying much younger. It's not a solution, just an effective treatment.
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