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Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Well I mean, given the public discourse of the past decade...it seems to me that they want the population to decline. So it makes sense that no one has in interest in investigating this.

"they want the population to decline" Who is "they"?

Some portion of commenters on HN, for one.

There are plenty of people who are so desperate about anthropogenic global warming that they're willing to forgo having children and proclaim that the disastrous decline in fertility rates in places like Korea (see recent HN thread) are actually good and necessary because we need fewer humans on this earth.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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post #56

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Well I mean, given the public discourse of the past decade...it seems to me that they want the population to decline. So it makes sense that no one has in interest in investigating this.

"they want the population to decline" Who is "they"?

Usually “they” in this context refers to “the powers that be”

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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What system would that be? This seems like pure speculation to me so could you elaborate a bit more?

Personally I am very fond of voluntary human extinction.

If we give up on withering away, and instead learn to accept death with some dignity instead of becoming a parasite to our offspring, euthanasia is a good way to go.

The fact that the older, non productive population will be more than the productive population in the not so distant future suggests that we need to rethink the way we go about doing things.

If life expectancy moves past 100, and people retire at 60-65, society will need to feed and take care of people for 35 or so years, that is far far more than the time and money it invests on its children, for a much larger segment of the population, which suggests that the old exploit the young.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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I would be massively in favour of adding a QR Code that details as much as possible (without giving away trade secrets if that is possible) where and how something is sourced and then adding how it was processed. Much like you get a track and trace with a package.

Who cares about hiding trade secrets if those trade secrets are "just a pinch of mercury" or some other nefarious chemical.

Just thinking ahead here for some possible pitfalls why companies would be against it.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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I think it's frankly weird to see what is clearly a male health issue and make a jab at women's health funding when its not like the article was talking about comparing to women's issues. This is very whataboutism.

When you've seen women's issues get tons of attention and funding for decades and any attempts to do the same for similar men's issues get ignored at best, you can get kind of bitter. This image kind of encapsulates the entire dynamic for me: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeE3J_jXoAABWXi.jpg

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Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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I had a test recently and I have 0% "normal" sperms, when 4%-14% is the normal range. Pretty radical. The doctor said to take vitamins, to get testosterone to normal level, and to excercise. In other words not much to do

>to get testosterone to normal level, How does one do that exactly?

Use your body. A sedentary lifestyle and poor diet makes it difficult on top of all the plastics that we consume.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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I get reliably downvoted for suggesting this, but we need vastly better labelling across the board. We give companies a lot of leeway when it comes to selling things to put in and on our bodies without us, owners of said bodies, having any way of finding out what the hell is in their products, or where they came from, or how they were processed. It absolutely baffles me how everyone doesn't want considerably more inf…

I would be massively in favour of adding a QR Code that details as much as possible (without giving away trade secrets if that is possible) where and how something is sourced and then adding how it was processed. Much like you get a track and trace with a package.

This exists in Europe - it’s catchily called ECHA SCIP. You can search by EAN at https://echa.europa.eu/scip-database

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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> Swan also recommends reducing exposure to endocrine-disrupting chemicals by being a savvy consumer Most hygiene products get away with listing diethyl phthalate as 'Parfum'. What we need is not savvy consumers what we need is regulators to get serious.

Environmental may be one such reason but we should never omit obesity as a cause for any health problem.

> A bidirectional relationship between testosterone and obesity underpins this association indicated by the hypogonadal-obesity cycle and evidence weight loss can lead to increased testosterone levels.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25982085/

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