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Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Post by nervousvarun » Thu, Dec 01, 2022, 3:26 PM UTC

kneebonian wrote: post #39

It is interesting, I have a friend group that consists of about 5 married couples all of whom have been having issues conceiving and have been trying for a while now, but are still having issues. Curiously enough my wife and I just had our 4th and every time we've conceived within two months (even when I was hoping it would take a little longer). From what I hear our friends story is not unusual and many in our age b…

n=1 but with my daughter we had issues and ended up resorting to IVF.

During the "issues" phase my count was tested and was considered good...problem is/was on my wife's side...all to say conception issues aren't all down to sperm counts (not that you implied that, just wanted it out there).

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Post by gjsman-1000 » Thu, Dec 01, 2022, 3:26 PM UTC

andai wrote: post #67

Inviz wrote: post #8

I had a test recently and I have 0% "normal" sperms, when 4%-14% is the normal range. Pretty radical. The doctor said to take vitamins, to get testosterone to normal level, and to excercise. In other words not much to do

Am I reading this right that the average person has 86-96% abnormal sperm?

If normal is 86-96% “abnormal,” it would seem abnormal is normal and normal is abnormal. ;)

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Post by zerkten » Thu, Dec 01, 2022, 3:26 PM UTC

yourusername wrote: post #70

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>to get testosterone to normal level, How does one do that exactly?

There's several ways. Get enough sleep, eat healthy fats, quit alcohol, lift weights, reduce body fat to a healthy level (but not too much) increase vitamin/mineral intake if you are deficient. Or go on TRT.

Many TRT regimens are counter to healthy sperm. Drugs like anastrozole or clomid are sometimes used along with HCG depending on the circumstances.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Post by the_third_wave » Thu, Dec 01, 2022, 3:27 PM UTC

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #44

Inviz wrote: post #8

I had a test recently and I have 0% "normal" sperms, when 4%-14% is the normal range. Pretty radical. The doctor said to take vitamins, to get testosterone to normal level, and to excercise. In other words not much to do

>to get testosterone to normal level, How does one do that exactly?

Eat more (raw? this is unclear from the studies) onions?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6406961/#!po=9....

Testosterone (17β-Hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one) is the main sex hormone in males. Maintaining and enhancing testosterone level in men is an incessant target for many researchers. Examples of such research approaches is to utilize specific types of food or dietary supplements as a safe and easily reached means. Here, specifically, since 1967 until now, many research studies have revealed the effect of onion on testosterone; however, this link has yet to be collectively reviewed or summarized. To accomplish this contribution, we searched the Scopus, Web of Science, and PubMed databases for full articles or abstracts (published in English language) from April 1967 through December 2018 using the keywords “onion” versus “testosterone”. In addition, a number of related published articles from the same databases were included to improve the integrity of the discussion, and hence the edge of the future directions. In summary, there is an evidence that onions enhance testosterone level in males. The mechanisms by which this occurs is mainly by increasing the production of luteinizing hormone, enhancing the antioxidant defense mechanism in the tests, neutralizing the damaging effects of the generated free radicals, ameliorating insulin resistance, promoting nitric oxide production, and altering the activity of adenosine 5′-monophosphate -activated protein kinase. However, this effect requires further approval in humans, mainly by conducting clinical trials. Keywords: onion, testosterone, luteinizing hormone, oxidative stress, antioxidants

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Post by Arete314159 » Thu, Dec 01, 2022, 3:27 PM UTC

bhouston wrote: post #35

Inviz wrote: post #8

I had a test recently and I have 0% "normal" sperms, when 4%-14% is the normal range. Pretty radical. The doctor said to take vitamins, to get testosterone to normal level, and to excercise. In other words not much to do

Your sperm does reset ever 75 days. Depending on the problem, it may be fixable. Exercise and raising testosterone will have a meaningful effect. Also check the various products you are using for endocrine disruptors and also you can go organic in terms of food (avoids pesticides, which are suspected of playing a role.)

I am not a man, but this reminds me of a time years ago when I started to have allergic reactions to things several times a day. My allergist put me on a strict elimination diet of triggers. I could only use unscented products for bathing and laundry, organic food only, and I even had to get rid of my teflon pans and use only stainless steel or cast iron. It sucked but it did seem to help, maybe you could try something like that too.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Post by anotherman554 » Thu, Dec 01, 2022, 3:27 PM UTC

yourusername wrote: post #70

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>to get testosterone to normal level, How does one do that exactly?

There's several ways. Get enough sleep, eat healthy fats, quit alcohol, lift weights, reduce body fat to a healthy level (but not too much) increase vitamin/mineral intake if you are deficient. Or go on TRT.

My doctor says lifting weights doesn't increase testosterone. It would be nice if it were true but it seems to largely be a myth. (I believe testosterone goes up slightly immediately after lifting weights but it has no real impact as it shortly goes back down.)

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Post by eterps » Thu, Dec 01, 2022, 3:27 PM UTC

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #34

> Swan also recommends reducing exposure to endocrine-disrupting chemicals by being a savvy consumer Most hygiene products get away with listing diethyl phthalate as 'Parfum'. What we need is not savvy consumers what we need is regulators to get serious.

Phthalates seem very hard to avoid: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/phthalates-health_b_2464248

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Post by PuppyTailWags » Thu, Dec 01, 2022, 3:27 PM UTC

Deukhoofd wrote: post #46

compiskey wrote: post #12

But are they? https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/05/fears-over-fa...

That article is not saying sperm counts are not dropping, but arguing that that is not linked with dropping fertility (and that the original study is racist for only including western countries or something).

To be fair I think it is kinda racist to categorize sperm as either "Western" sperm vs "other" sperm. They couldn't do the bare fucking minimum and at least separate by continent or wealth? Health?

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Post by shrimp_emoji » Thu, Dec 01, 2022, 3:27 PM UTC

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #62

ghiculescu wrote: post #29

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Already have. As a young adult, I am asked to reconcile paying and working for old people, most of whom despise my very existence because I am not cis-het, people who repeatedly called for my death, people who go on twitter tirades about how LGBT people shouldn't exist and in the process making a their base of borderline functioning adults more rabid, my taxes and work pay so that said rabid animals have healthcare w…

>I have to fund the pension of people who tried to indoctrinate me into their religion by instilling fear into a younger me, telling me that I will go to hell every single day for being a non believer, or for being different.

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Never forget who ur enemies are `3´

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Post by vanderZwan » Thu, Dec 01, 2022, 3:27 PM UTC

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #34

> Swan also recommends reducing exposure to endocrine-disrupting chemicals by being a savvy consumer Most hygiene products get away with listing diethyl phthalate as 'Parfum'. What we need is not savvy consumers what we need is regulators to get serious.

I genuinely hate this (meaning Swan's) take. The modern world is waaaay to complex to offload all responsibility to "consumers".

They did it with sustainability, with sweat shops, with food, with cleaning products. It's ridiculous.