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Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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What system would that be? This seems like pure speculation to me so could you elaborate a bit more?

It just sounds like straightforward anti-natalism/extinctionism to me. My wife has a similar mindset

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Great news for people like me who don't want to reproduce.

I’m hoping this was said in jest but this is definitely not great news for you, and will only make the demographic cliff even steeper. Assuming you at some point want to be alive when no longer young this is something to be alarmed by, as there simply aren’t going to be enough work-capable people around to keep the machinery of society functioning while still supporting those who have aged-out of the working aged pop…

The machinery of many societies, including the most powerful ones, is one where an owning class keeps most things for themselves, yet expects the non-owning class to want to contribute children to it and pay for it themselves. No thanks. If the owning class cares so much it can start doing things like making having a family much less economically stressful.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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The lack of federally funded research on this topic is astounding. It's been like this for a long time, but ignored.

Even more notably has been the lack of curiosity from the media and academia.

They simply shrug and move on, as if the root cause of this isn't something we should look into as potentially causing other problems that are even worse.

Edit:

The downvotes without any comment refuting this highlight the issue. This is a topic that should elicit more curiosity than it does, and we should ask ourselves why it doesn't.

I worked in intel/defense for over 10 years, and part of our post Iraq WMD training was looking for signs of bias/motivated reasoning that are a sign of the group think that allowed for a war to be started based on false pretenses. One of the biggest indicators:

"A lack of curiosity about a phenomenon/event/factor where it should be expected."

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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I had a test recently and I have 0% "normal" sperms, when 4%-14% is the normal range. Pretty radical. The doctor said to take vitamins, to get testosterone to normal level, and to excercise. In other words not much to do

>to get testosterone to normal level,

How does one do that exactly?

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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But are they? https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/05/fears-over-fa...

That article is not saying sperm counts are not dropping, but arguing that that is not linked with dropping fertility (and that the original study is racist for only including western countries or something).

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Hopefully they will never discover that this is due to excessive wanking.

Pornhub causing the fall of civilization and not nuclear proliferation or global warming? That's a new one.

You clearly don't hang out with enough catholics & evangelicals.

In all seriousness this is a mainstream-ish opinion in some religious circles.

Re: Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought

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Great news for people like me who don't want to reproduce.

Do you intend to become elderly? Perhaps not so great news in 50 years when you are looking for a nursing home.

This comments feels a little ambiguous, and driving replies for two separate issues.

At a societal level, is an imbalanced population pyramid a problem? Yes, and many countries are solving this by opening up immigration options.

Should an individual opting not to have children be expected to have negative consequences in old age? IMHO, no.

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