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IPhone share hit 36% in U.S., fell to 20% in France

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Re: IPhone share hit 36% in U.S., fell to 20% in France

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I know a few people who switched from iPhone to Android (Galaxy II) and it is definitely not because of "price sensitivity" but rather lack of innovation and loss of marketing traction on Apple's side. An iPhone is just not that hip and not that much of a lifestyle object anymore. Also some waited for the iPhone five to come out but when that did not happen the went Android. I am from Germany by the way, where Apple lost 5% market share.

Re: IPhone share hit 36% in U.S., fell to 20% in France

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I know a few people who switched from iPhone to Android (Galaxy II) and it is definitely not because of "price sensitivity" but rather lack of innovation and loss of marketing traction on Apple's side. An iPhone is just not that hip and not that much of a lifestyle object anymore. Also some waited for the iPhone five to come out but when that did not happen the went Android. I am from Germany by the way, where Apple…

Did the total market grow? Article doesn't say anything about that, title slightly misleading as it is about new phone sold, not the total of users. I'd expect android to sell more, but apple to continue to hold the high end.

Re: IPhone share hit 36% in U.S., fell to 20% in France

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I know a few people who switched from iPhone to Android (Galaxy II) and it is definitely not because of "price sensitivity" but rather lack of innovation and loss of marketing traction on Apple's side. An iPhone is just not that hip and not that much of a lifestyle object anymore. Also some waited for the iPhone five to come out but when that did not happen the went Android. I am from Germany by the way, where Apple…

Did the total market grow? Article doesn't say anything about that, title slightly misleading as it is about new phone sold, not the total of users. I'd expect android to sell more, but apple to continue to hold the high end.

Here's some worldwide figures: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/gartner-windows-phone-mar...

From Q3 2010 -> Q3 2011 iOS went from 13million to 17million. Android went from 20million to 60million.

Re: IPhone share hit 36% in U.S., fell to 20% in France

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In France Apple doesn't have home advantage and as strong patent portfolio as in US, so it has to compete with the others only on the merits of quality and price of their phone.

"The French market is showing increasing signs of price sensitivity," Kantar's Dominic Sunnebo told Reuters.

So just price then.

Also have any phones actually been banned from sale in the US yet? I thought HTC had time to change their product.

Re: IPhone share hit 36% in U.S., fell to 20% in France

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I know a few people who switched from iPhone to Android (Galaxy II) and it is definitely not because of "price sensitivity" but rather lack of innovation and loss of marketing traction on Apple's side. An iPhone is just not that hip and not that much of a lifestyle object anymore. Also some waited for the iPhone five to come out but when that did not happen the went Android. I am from Germany by the way, where Apple…

It's hard not to take these "hipness reports" with a gigantic rock of salt. Anyone that's lurked a tech forum for the last few years has heard stories of Blackberry surging in popularity among London teens and Nokia pride prevailing over iPhone hype among Europeans. Needless to say, Europe hasn't exactly proven to be a style bellwether. The vastly simpler and more likely explanation for the difference is that Apple products are far more expensive in Europe (and, to a degree that varies by country, that people in many European countries have less disposable income than the average American).

Re: IPhone share hit 36% in U.S., fell to 20% in France

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In France Apple doesn't have home advantage and as strong patent portfolio as in US, so it has to compete with the others only on the merits of quality and price of their phone.

"The French market is showing increasing signs of price sensitivity," Kantar's Dominic Sunnebo told Reuters. So just price then. Also have any phones actually been banned from sale in the US yet? I thought HTC had time to change their product.

The same quote also mean just quality, since you get better phone for the same money you want to spend ;)

I understood that HTC is from the US banned until they change their product, but you may be right.

Anyways, it's much harder for any non US company to compete with Apple (and Motorola) on US market. Take an example of Nokia which was absolute smartphone leader everywhere in the world excluding US. HTC and Samsung are in the similar position.

Re: IPhone share hit 36% in U.S., fell to 20% in France

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Question for anyone caring to posit an opinion.

I have interest in a few apps out there. All are available on iOS and Android. I have found the iOS apps to be MUCH more profitable. Apps made for iPad are incredibly profitable. Now realize, I am only talking about apps I had a hand in.

My question is, why is this? Is this just the way the market is? And if others are getting more profit from Android than iPhone, what do you think is driving that?

I guess the question is, how do you get Android users to pay you? It is an important question if such a growing number of people are using Android.

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