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GIMP Turns 27

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Post by asveikau »

torginus wrote: post #64
NoThisIsMe wrote: post #41

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They've been working on this for like a decade, in a sense. They're rewriting the core as a library, GEGL, which supports non-destructive editing as well as other long-requested features. My impression is GEGL is largely done; the remaining work is to port GIMP to it. Realizing these gains for non-destructive editing is planned for v3.2, which is probably years away still. The other major initiative since forever has…

Sorry, come again? Porting to GTK 3? GTK 4 has been out for years.

https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/migrating-3to4.html

Does it really make sense for them to break so many things? Doesn't show a lot of respect for people who adopt the library.

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Post by jdhendrickson »

BaseballPhysics wrote: post #119

Man, who would've guessed I'd be tempted to flag a post about GIMP. The level of vitriol in these comments is truly impressive...

Yeah, it really bummed me out too. People don't remember when there was literally nothing and having this free photo editor was a life saver. They also don't know how stupidly complex that kind of software is to write. Just a lot of sneering, and not from anyone whose done anything worth a damn based on a cursory examination of their accounts.

I was hoping to read a ton of posts about good memories, or thanks, to the project but I wish I hadn't opened it now.

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Post by jdhendrickson »

filmgirlcw wrote: post #146
pessimizer wrote: post #135

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There's an instinct for pre-emptive attacks on minority opinions from people who have gone with the crowd and experience some cognitive dissonance over it. There are a lot of people who think that they should be using the GIMP (for whatever reason), but of course found it easier to do what everyone else was doing, and have to justify that by attacking the software and the people who use it. The reason definitely isn'…

There’s also an instinct for preemptively defending and discarding any piece of criticism and attacking those with criticisms (no matter what it is) of being invalid. The reason definitely isn’t because GIMP is a great piece of software with a logical UI, near a random UI filled with aging cruft, tutorials from 2004, and bizarre flows for doing simple things. Any affection for the GIMP is Stockholm Syndrome from spen…

Maybe just maybe the thread celebrating their 27th birthday isn't the time or place for shitting on them?

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Post by ipaddr »

lmm wrote: post #198
RubyRidgeRandy wrote: post #175

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Looking into it, Krita does seem very capable. I don't think we should really be mad at healthy competition existing in these spaces though, they should lead to better tools for end users.

Only if better tools are actually getting into users' hands though. I don't know what exactly has gone wrong, but somehow it's the Gimp that keeps getting recommended to those end users.

It's installed by default in some linux repos. Getting that changed would go a long way.

Thanks for the information I will check it out

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Post by Ygg2 »

nickthegreek wrote: post #79
Ygg2 wrote: post #22

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I don't think you have to be ideologically inclined. Photoshop is already turning on the milking machine. Subscription. Check. Paid add ons. Check. Paid color palette. Check and mark.

Agreed, luckily, Affinity exists and they are not only resisting subscriptions but also sell cross platform licenses.

That assumes that Affinity doesn't get bought by Adobe, or their license model never changes. Which in today's world is a fools errand.

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Post by prox »

buildsjets wrote: post #196
ravenstine wrote: post #165

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Eventual CMYK support was announced back when I had hair. Today I'm pretty sure that CMYK still isn't supported, though I think there might have been some recent advances in that area. Non-destructive editing was supposed to also become a thing with GEGL, but that never really materialized.

I needed this the other day. CMYK output is in the 2.99.xx nightly builds and works fine. Export only, can’t work in cmyk natively.

So it took 27 years to add CMYK support? Well there is progress I guess.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by prox »

jeppester wrote: post #103

Congratulations! GIMP is great for what it is. As a dev I use it frequently to do minor adjustments to images and photographs; cropping, colors, brightness, resizing, rotation etc. Right after Inkscape, GIMP is probably my second favorite "I'm actually a bit of a designer myself"-tool. Both do more than enough - again and again - for me to not need outside help, they no doubt give me an edge! For those - probably des…

Personally I have no gripes with GIMP, it IS great it’s there, but when I look at recent FOSS projects I enjoy like Blender, Godot, Kdenlive… I can’t help that GIMP could be a lot more successful in building an active ecosystem of sprawling development that inspires. Don’t get me wrong, I am glad people like it as it is. But I see a lot of missed opportunities. When I used GIMP and wanted to contribute back, there was a lot of derogatory attitudes I noticed (this is 10 years ago now or so, maybe it has changed)

In a comment above, CMYK support has just been added. That’s pretty late for an image editor that exists for so long. I am just irked by what could have been under more open and inviting management.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by nailer »

capitainenemo wrote: post #141
anigbrowl wrote: post #65

> To celebrate [...] this nice birthday illustration (fully drawn within GIMP [...] There's some sort of weird inferiority complex when your graphics software is 27 years old and you're still saying 'look we used it for one of our website assets.' It's like telling people at the birthday party that you dressed yourself. I find it equally strange that there are almost no screenshots on the website, outside of the docs…

There's some nice GIMP tutorials here with good showcasing. https://pixls.us/articles I believe written by GIMP contributors.. including Pat David who did a ton of older and a bit less polished ones here: https://patdavid.net/getting-around-in-gimp/ (for example this good one from 2012 https://patdavid.net/2012/08/getting-around-in-gimp-heal-sel... )

The point is that nobody will find that showcase from the gimp website.

(It’s OK, personally since using gimp 20 years ago I now accept that gimp doesn’t want users)

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