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GIMP Turns 27

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Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by jhoechtl »

colordrops wrote: post #200

It seems for years in every thread about Gimp I've seen, people are shitting on it. I don't get it. I suppose that it's from people comparing it to Photoshop? I've never been a heavy Photoshop user though, and Gimp has been perfect for all my basic non-pro-level needs over the years. I'm sure this is true for many others as well. Just wanted to say thank you to the devs in case you are here.

> It seems for years in every thread about Gimp I've seen, people are shitting on it.

What is hard to understand? Gimp promised since ages CMYK editing or non-destructive overlays, nothing materialized or as a shit-show (CMYK can be exported but not edited)

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by jhoechtl »

the-smug-one wrote: post #46
perardi wrote: post #2

Still no adjustment layers, still no layer styles. It’s so easy to just critique away…but really? Really? Those are just absolutely essential image editing software features. What have they been prioritizing ahead of that?

"Øyvind Kolås raises funds for his work on GEGL, GIMP’s new sophisticated image processing core. This work is crucial to implement features such as non-destructive editing in GIMP, including features known as adjustment layers and layer effects in similar software. Øyvind is the GEGL maintainer and its primary developer who has been working on it since mid-2000s. "

> Øyvind Kolås raises funds for his work on GEGL, GIMP’s new sophisticated image processing core

GEGL aka duke nukem forever

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by mixmastamyk »

HKH2 wrote: post #132
zulban wrote: post #55

GIMP is great, I use it all the time. I wish they would change their name so it could have more mainstream acceptance.

This gets dismissed every time it's brought up, but I agree with you that it probably has stunted its growth considerably.

Would you say it gives it a limp?

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by guessbest »

julianeon wrote: post #182
anigbrowl wrote: post #65

> To celebrate [...] this nice birthday illustration (fully drawn within GIMP [...] There's some sort of weird inferiority complex when your graphics software is 27 years old and you're still saying 'look we used it for one of our website assets.' It's like telling people at the birthday party that you dressed yourself. I find it equally strange that there are almost no screenshots on the website, outside of the docs…

Programming algorithms - really? What can you do programmitically w Gimp?

There used to be a site dedicated to script-fu which is a scheme like language.

There used to be a registry of scripts, due to the following it was taken down:

> The main problem was maintenance. Every version of gimp more or less required an update of plugin. People would write their plugin, upload it and probably never updated because it was a one off for them.

> Then there was something like X-thousand plugins.

> And then hackers got into it and vandalised the site.

https://old.reddit.com/r/GIMP/comments/8wye88/why_was_the_re...

Internet Archive : https://web.archive.org/web/20121102092052/http://registry.g...

github archive : https://github.com/pixlsus/registry.gimp.org_static

Lots of manuals out there : https://www.uoxray.uoregon.edu/local/manuals/GUM/write_scrip...

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by renewiltord »

I've used GIMP so much through my life. Krita is pretty good and better with the Wacom stuff, but I just reach for Gimp. Not for any good reason since last time it was unbearably slow on Apple Silicon.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by thrillgore »

ravenstine wrote: post #94

I get why people take issue with GIMP, but I'm glad that it exists and has existed. Back in the day I got a lot done with GIMP for both fun and school work, and it was great that it worked both on Windows and Linux. Better tools are around now, and GIMP has failed to live up to a lot of its promises, but I don't get why people need to shit all over it. No one is making you use GIMP. It's honestly amazing that people…

I think GIMP is still pretty important because it at least gave you options over buying or pirating Photoshop. Nowadays, I use Affinity Photo over any of them, but the importance of choice matters, because piracy doesn't impact Adobe's reach. It further entrenches it as the norm.

Today, with Krita, Affinity, Pixelmator and the like, I would never suggest its "morally right" to pirate Photoshop, because you will still inadvertently support an Adobe monoculture. The morally right choice is to use anything else, and the competitors are functionally capable of supporting 95% of Photoshop's features.

Also, GIMP did give us GTK, which solved a very real issue with open source desktops -- none of them were actually open source at the time. Gnome still conducts the very important work of supporting GTK.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by cyber_kinetist »

anigbrowl wrote: post #65

> To celebrate [...] this nice birthday illustration (fully drawn within GIMP [...] There's some sort of weird inferiority complex when your graphics software is 27 years old and you're still saying 'look we used it for one of our website assets.' It's like telling people at the birthday party that you dressed yourself. I find it equally strange that there are almost no screenshots on the website, outside of the docs…

You don’t even need to look at commercial software. Already Krita is doing much better in terms of both usability and marketing…

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by nextaccountic »

Nition wrote: post #67
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point I don’t think it’s controversial to say that this project existing has harmed creative tools on Linux. If another project had become the de-facto we’d have all those basic features. Instead we’re stuck with something that almost provides the basics ok, because it exists people treat it like a solved problem, and it has such a history no one’s allowed to say it just frankly isn’t usable for it’s one job.

In some ways the de facto standard now is http://www.photopea.com in a browser.

It's not free software though

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by nextaccountic »

perardi wrote: post #2

Still no adjustment layers, still no layer styles. It’s so easy to just critique away…but really? Really? Those are just absolutely essential image editing software features. What have they been prioritizing ahead of that?

Krita can do those things.. just saying.

In a sense, Krita is not just better for painting. It's a better general purpose image editing program, specially in terms of UX

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by asveikau »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #150
josefx wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What have they been prioritizing ahead of that? Gnome integration and Wayland as far as I can tell from its roadmap. So basically staying functional under the ADHD driven development model that is the Linux desktop environment. A bit hilarious that Gimp now has a hard time staying up to date with Gnomes Gtk when Gtk was originally an UI lib for Gimp.

> A bit hilarious that Gimp now has a hard time staying up to date with Gnomes Gtk when Gtk was originally an UI lib for Gimp. Yet not terribly surprising. GIMP provided a useful alternative widget framework because it helped them push boundaries. Now that's grown into its own thing, and the parent project lags since its core focus is elsewhere.

Frankly I think gtk+ quality has been going down for a few releases.
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