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GIMP Turns 27

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Re: GIMP Turns 27

#191

I was a heavy GIMP user back in the day. Just last week i downloaded again. I didn‘t understand anything. Maybe i just forgot it all, but it felt unusable to me. The UI seemed so cluttered and unnecessarily complex. Almost like they want to prove how powerful the tool is, by shoving it all in your face. I didn‘t like it. I think it might be time to reinvent. It would be a shame if GIMP joined the club of 27…

Has the UI even changed in 27 years? The fact that the I don't have to relearn it every time I update it has been my favorite feature.

By default, everything is all in one window instead of floating bars for the tools and images.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

#192

So many gross comments in here. What is wrong with you people? :-P Gimp is fantastic image editor and the freedom and price are just right. Been using it since the late nineties when I gave up Paint Shop Pro (which was a better every-day image editor than even Photoshop). I use it a few times a week to edit/convert my photos, web images, and album covers and it works quite well. If you want something dedicated to you…

>So many gross comments in here. What is wrong with you people? :-P

Hear here! The comments are pretty gross tbh, even taking into account some legit gripes; the majority seem just gross and nearly vindictive.

Fine, fine you pay out the wazoo and you're too good for free software yawn yawn yawn. (not "you" mixmastamyk; I mean generic editorial "you")

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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I’m not familiar with that program, what about the UI is especially bad/weird?

Everything, subjectively. Logic Pro is the epitome of Apple leaning fully into 'Form as an excuse for function' and it's one of the most hilariously useless pieces of paid software ever devised. Apple refuses to give it Pro Tools functionality because it's not a 'real DAW' and hobbles multiple features to Garageband-level functionality. I'd prefer to keep my ugly-but-capable GIMP on every platform rather than having…

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Re: GIMP Turns 27

#196

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> GIMP has failed to live up to a lot of its promises, Which failed promises are you referring to specifically?

Eventual CMYK support was announced back when I had hair. Today I'm pretty sure that CMYK still isn't supported, though I think there might have been some recent advances in that area. Non-destructive editing was supposed to also become a thing with GEGL, but that never really materialized.

I needed this the other day. CMYK output is in the 2.99.xx nightly builds and works fine. Export only, can’t work in cmyk natively.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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What frustrates me is that it somehow sucks all the oxygen away from e.g. Krita, which is better in all the ways that matter. And frankly most of the whole Gtk/Gnome umbrella is like that. I don't know if it's just americans not wanting to touch a European project or what, but it's just infuriating.

> I don't know if it's just americans not wanting to touch a European project or what, but it's just infuriating That's some weird complex. I doubt most people know what piece of free software is European versus American. I further doubt it has any meaningful impact on adoption.

I agree it's bizzare, but why else would it be that all the US Linux distros use Gnome and all the European ones use KDE?

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I don't know; a lot of people say something like that but they never seem to give a concrete example of what the different things they need are. Krita has always been able to do all the photo editing I ever wanted to.

Looking into it, Krita does seem very capable. I don't think we should really be mad at healthy competition existing in these spaces though, they should lead to better tools for end users.

Only if better tools are actually getting into users' hands though. I don't know what exactly has gone wrong, but somehow it's the Gimp that keeps getting recommended to those end users.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Still no adjustment layers, still no layer styles. It’s so easy to just critique away…but really? Really? Those are just absolutely essential image editing software features. What have they been prioritizing ahead of that?

Those could had been implemented loooooooong ago. In a hacky way. The dictate was to be pure and wait for GEGL. So still nothing of that. We got layer trees at least.

They could have been implemented by overloading the layer blending code, and recoded with GEGL once ready. But pure won over "we can do that too now, please do not look behind the curtain". It's really simple: adjustment is just a layer that only uses mask data and operates on the bottom layer pixels with already coded functions (levels, contrast, etc). Styles would be similar, applying plugins/scripts. If when proposed the reply is "we will not accept that kind of crude system", nobody wastes time coding a patch.

That was not the only time GIMP project went the pure road. There was also drama with themes and paintbrush system. On the end, some of the old ideas managed to get there, like grey icon theme (now hated by some, the irony) or having a working paint system (I have not tested with a tablet, so no idea if any good). Even non coders were trying to help, for example contributing brushes and testing the system [0], yet they ran out of steam after some time of hitting walls. The few people involved now seem to be the ones that have been taking over after all the previous got seriously burnt (except Kolås). [0] https://www.ramonmiranda.com/gimp-paint-studio-su-pasado-pre... (autotranslation work OKish)

Re: GIMP Turns 27

#200
It seems for years in every thread about Gimp I've seen, people are shitting on it. I don't get it. I suppose that it's from people comparing it to Photoshop? I've never been a heavy Photoshop user though, and Gimp has been perfect for all my basic non-pro-level needs over the years. I'm sure this is true for many others as well.

Just wanted to say thank you to the devs in case you are here.

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