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He takes 30% for his platform, what's the issue with Apple taking 30% for their own platform? Quit the platform if you want. If consumers value Spotify enough they will leave Apple for it (spoiler: They won't)
It should be illegal for apple to force such a choice to begin with.
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Better: We (the people) ban you from selling phones in our rich and prosperous land if you don’t comply. Signed: Everyone
Why do you need to ban other people from buying them? You can already just opt to not buy them yourself. Why do you care if others still want to? Clearly not signed everyone - I don’t sign it.
If you’re willing to ban the NFA/legalize probate nuclear weapons we might be able to talk.
In the mean time I suspect you support at least some level of collective restriction, and that means banning companies from selling locked hardware is fair game.
I couldn't find public information for Apple or Google on the amount spent on R&D for iOS and Android, hence I'm not sure what the cost to Apple is of maintaining iOS and all the APIs that application developers can use to build their applications. There are some attempts on the Internet of people attempting to estimate iOS/Android R&D costs from LinkedIn data, open jobs data, other public records of revenue from app stores, etc but nothing much I can see being of use to generating a useful estimate.
It appears that in 2021, Apple received somewhere between USD$10-25 billion[3] (likely on the high end of this range) from app store sales (after paying developers) which for the 235 million iPhones[4], 58 million iPads[5] and 29 million macOS devices[6] sold in 2021 equates to about USD$77 per device sold. I'll just assume watches and TV app store sales don't make much of a difference so USD$77 may be slightly on the high side of an estimate.
Apple could perhaps increase the price of all their iPhone, iPad and MacBook models by USD$77 and do away with collecting revenue through the app store, but would consumers still buy these devices at the higher price points?
[1] https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:AwEUXo...
[2] https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:vDm8GL...
[3] https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/apple-implies-it-generated-r...
[4] https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS48830822
[5] https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS48826122
[6] https://www.canalys.com/newsroom/global-pc-market-Q4-2021
I want the option to control my devices. I don’t understand the arguments that claim Apple needs to rule the device with an iron fist. What problems does it cause to make the locked down experience the default with the option for me to disable that and take control of the device after I buy it? I want to own my stuff. I want to repair it and I want complete control over it. I think that in 10 years we’ll all have car…
And that’s awesome! Personally I’m the same way.
But an overwhelming majority of people do not want to fight with or customize their tech. Opening the tech actually tricks them into causing more problems by clicking random pop up’s on websites that look like system updates or other malware / advert tricks.
A recent discussion on this problem is here [1]. I’m not sure how to solve this. Maybe we need an actually viable Linux phone for tinkerers, while also having a locked down iPhone for the less tech literate? Maybe Apple can introduce a less locked down version of iOS for power users?
Stop buying Apple if you don't like it. Seriously. At the end of the day all of these companies would do the exact same thing as Apple if they were in Apple's position. The real solution to this is improved functionality of web apps and complete migration to those, then you can be free of the duopoly. Other than using phone specific features, why can't all apps run on your desktop, laptop or elsewhere? I'll never get…
and with that sentence you've just described the exact reason precisely why antitrust legislation is long overdue and whyy your solution doesn't work. Running to an alternative will, in due time, just reproduce the same result. In fact Spotify is itself a walled garden for artists suffering from the same dynamics.
Stop buying Apple if you don't like it. Seriously. At the end of the day all of these companies would do the exact same thing as Apple if they were in Apple's position. The real solution to this is improved functionality of web apps and complete migration to those, then you can be free of the duopoly. Other than using phone specific features, why can't all apps run on your desktop, laptop or elsewhere? I'll never get…
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Why do you need to ban other people from buying them? You can already just opt to not buy them yourself. Why do you care if others still want to? Clearly not signed everyone - I don’t sign it.
Lol we’re well past that. If you’re willing to ban the NFA/legalize probate nuclear weapons we might be able to talk. In the mean time I suspect you support at least some level of collective restriction, and that means banning companies from selling locked hardware is fair game.
Locked mobile phones don’t hurt people other than the people who choose to use them. That’s different to for example a gun.
The only reason to ban iPhones is because you know other people like them as they are and you’re in a minority! You want to enforce a minority opinion on others. That’s morally wrong.
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> Compensating artists fairly starts by kicking out useless middlemen, and Apple plays that role in this instance. Spotify needs the cooperation of the major record labels to operate and they have no interest in compensating artists fairly or kicking middlemen out of the process.
Hard to say, Apple never gave them a chance.
I want the option to control my devices. I don’t understand the arguments that claim Apple needs to rule the device with an iron fist. What problems does it cause to make the locked down experience the default with the option for me to disable that and take control of the device after I buy it? I want to own my stuff. I want to repair it and I want complete control over it. I think that in 10 years we’ll all have car…
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Apple already implements a solution on the Mac. The Mac defaults to signed apps. And you need to change a setting to allow unsigned apps. iOS could easily default to what we have today, but allow the installation of non App Store apps after users change a setting and confirm after reading a scary warning pop up, that tells users they may be exposing themselves to data theft, hacking, viruses and money theft.
I really want this to happen, and I hope Apple is forced to make it happen — a fairly likely scenario in the EU I think — but if they do allow side-loading I fear they will disable all sorts of Apple services when you flip that switch. No more Apple Pay, for starters. Maybe no iMessage. Things where they can argue they have to turn them off to protect the user, and/or themselves, from rogue apps. And then you could h…