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GIMP Turns 27

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Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by lmm »

matkoniecz wrote: post #137
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #56

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At this point I don’t think it’s controversial to say that this project existing has harmed creative tools on Linux. If another project had become the de-facto we’d have all those basic features. Instead we’re stuck with something that almost provides the basics ok, because it exists people treat it like a solved problem, and it has such a history no one’s allowed to say it just frankly isn’t usable for it’s one job.

I am confused why you think that Gimp somehow magically used all slots for image software development. It is not like it is extremely well funded or otherwise resource consuming. > because it exists people treat it like a solved problem People complaining about lack of alternative projects in open source is a new one for me > it has such a history no one’s allowed to say it just frankly isn’t usable for it’s one job.…

> I am confused why you think that Gimp somehow magically used all slots for image software development.

The linux distribution model seems to lead it to, somehow. If you open up a RedHat machine and ask it for a picture editor, you're going to get Gimp, even though Krita would almost certainly be better at doing what you want.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by Agrue8u »

Gigachad wrote: post #99
wankle wrote: post #80

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GIMP I've used for years and years, never heard of photopea, was the comment a SPAM Ad spot?

Photopea is almost more well known than gimp these days.

Haven't used photoshop in 10 years. I have gimp, never use it. Paint.net is my basic image tool, along with IrfanView, for which I have a license circa 2004. I also use Scribus, FOSS version of InDesign. But never heard of Photopea until today...

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by lmm »

RubyRidgeRandy wrote: post #170
lmm wrote: post #169

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What frustrates me is that it somehow sucks all the oxygen away from e.g. Krita, which is better in all the ways that matter. And frankly most of the whole Gtk/Gnome umbrella is like that. I don't know if it's just americans not wanting to touch a European project or what, but it's just infuriating.

I've never looked at Krita because it's always been referenced to me as a painting application primarily and not an image editing / photo manipulation tool. I understand there may be some cross over in functionality, but aren't they essentially built for different purposes?

I don't know; a lot of people say something like that but they never seem to give a concrete example of what the different things they need are. Krita has always been able to do all the photo editing I ever wanted to.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by RubyRidgeRandy »

lmm wrote: post #174
RubyRidgeRandy wrote: post #170

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I've never looked at Krita because it's always been referenced to me as a painting application primarily and not an image editing / photo manipulation tool. I understand there may be some cross over in functionality, but aren't they essentially built for different purposes?

I don't know; a lot of people say something like that but they never seem to give a concrete example of what the different things they need are. Krita has always been able to do all the photo editing I ever wanted to.

Looking into it, Krita does seem very capable. I don't think we should really be mad at healthy competition existing in these spaces though, they should lead to better tools for end users.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by phendrenad2 »

Congrats! GIMP is great for people who can't afford a $100 software package to edit photos. It's been a long time since I was in that cohort, but I fondly remember using GIMP at that time.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by kevinfiol »

For those used to PhotoShop who have a hard time transitioning, checkout PhotoGIMP [1]. No, it doesn't magically make GIMP as powerful as PhotoShop, but it rearranges the UI so that it's more familiar to users accustomed to PhotoShop. Frankly, I don't do very advanced image editing, so GIMP definitely has what I need, but I could never unlearn the tool placement of PhotoShop.

[1] https://github.com/Diolinux/PhotoGIMP

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by ofrzeta »

ravenstine wrote: post #165
hackyhacky wrote: post #147

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> GIMP has failed to live up to a lot of its promises, Which failed promises are you referring to specifically?

Eventual CMYK support was announced back when I had hair. Today I'm pretty sure that CMYK still isn't supported, though I think there might have been some recent advances in that area. Non-destructive editing was supposed to also become a thing with GEGL, but that never really materialized.

This has been discussed in a recent thread:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31419928

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Post by mickael-kerjean »

bscphil wrote: post #115
bxparks wrote: post #88

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GIMP is the only software whose UI makes me feel completely stupid. Every 1-2 years, I install it, fire it up to crop an image. I stare at the screen, right click a few times, then I close the app after admitting total defeat. It's been like this for 20 years. A few years ago, I found out that Irfanview runs under Wine. It's a great feeling to understand the UI of a program.

I just categorically disagree that you can conclude anything about GIMP on this basis. I will strongly agree with anyone who says that GIMP is missing features and that it's subpar for graphic designer work. But I've used GIMP for over 15 years now and I have the exact same experience as you when I try to do anything in Photoshop. I simply can't find my way around Photoshop's interface at all. Does that mean that Pho…

I'm in the same boat, love gimp and use it all the time. Like any other non trivial software, it takes a bit of learning but it's funny to see a lot of vocal people on HN complaining how UI are now some dumb down and see in the case of gimp the wish to make it simpler, you can't please everyone
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