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Cutting costs is always a marginal thing, because businesses tend to value growth. Oversimplification: If you have a 50% margin business, the value of one more dollar of revenue is $.50. If you cut costs and change the margin to 55%, then you've added only $.05 of revenue to that additional dollar. Now, a sane person will look at the improvements to margin across the whole business and still want to make those improv…
Not to nitpick, but 5% improvement profit does not apply to the additional dollar. It applies to all the revenue.... So the improvement could be massive.
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#352Earlier quoted context omitted.
> VR as a technology is cool and revolutionary That's a funny way of saying decades old at this point and still not ready for prime time.
The current state of VR is not decades old. It’s like saying automobiles are decades old so EVs are not exciting.
I own a Quest which mostly my son uses for games and loves, and I occasionally game on. It’s cool. It’s also a toy I would never try to use for work.
I can imagine a VR/AR technology that is world changing. It’s hard to say if it’s technologically and physically possible to implement ever or if it’s just fantasy. It’s also really hard to know exactly how far away we are from a toy to something that makes a very large number of workers significantly more productive.
I’ll say this, in a world where a lot of work is being done remotely, it seems to me that VR could be a powerful game changer with the right hardware and the right UI for company and team cohesion, feeling connected to peers, and collaboration.
Some day I am certain we will look back at Zoom-style telepresence and laugh at how quaint it is.
I don’t think we’ll ever spend 8 hours straight every day in VR, unless you’re the rare employee spending their entire day in meetings. I do think dropping into VR spaces for certain types of work throughout the day could become “a thing” and I don’t think we are actually that far off.
Facebook’s mistake was thinking they could spend billions to leap ahead to the goal, while simultaneously not being able to communicate to even their own employees that goal and why it’s meaningful.
I think there are generational advancements that take time to happen no matter how many people are “working” on it.
I also tend to think as a team goes from 100 people to 10,000 the other 9,900 are just making work not doing work, unless you can split up the problem into extremely well defined components that will end up snapping together properly and run them as 100 separate skunk-work projects.
Fundamentally, a cartoon world doesn’t help me get work done. But I can imagine customer support, content moderation, traffic control, all the real-time kind of twitch-based jobs out there could probably design an immersive VR interface which is a lot more efficient and fun to work inside than a desktop environment.
So many real-world tasks that a wearable AR screen could potentially assist with, whether it’s learning how to fix something around the house, or learning a hobby.
I recently learned to scuba dive and got my PADI cert but definitely still have a lot to learn. Could I one day put on a BCd (the diving vest) and a pair of VR goggles and do immersive training courses, or preview a dive?
I am learning guitar, I could imagine VR or AR goggles helping me get better but it would require a lot of custom software and UX.
I also like the idea of being able to put on the goggles and connecting with an expert that sees what you see and is in your ear waking you thru something, for times when software alone doesn’t cut it.
I just can’t help but believe there’s huge value to be unlocked and better ways to communicate, collaborate, and entertain and that we just need to cross a usability and ergonomics threshold which isn’t too far off and people will actually start getting comfortable and engaged in these settings.
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#353Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am familiar with this org from my time at Meta and I think the author paints a rosier picture of their achievements than I would. Let’s just say there is more than one side to the story.
> I am familiar with this org from my time at Meta and I think the author paints a rosier picture of their achievements than I would. Let’s just say there is more than one side to the story. 1. No need to beat a man while he is down. 2. Based on a few verifiable claims the op has made, I’m guessing you are missing or willfully ignoring some of the big picture details. I might be wrong about this, but I would certainl…
A man who is still kicking isn't really down. No need to talk bad about a person who left silently, but anyone who kicks up a fuzz should expect people to respond if they disagree with the fuzz.
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He can feel however he likes; nothing compelled him to post it publicly for all the world to read and comment. > How could someone be resentful at losing their job to a nonsensical decision making process? How could someone possibly be frustrated to be shown zero gratitude for their very profitable work for someone else? He chose to work for Mark Zuckerberg. He wishes he could continue working for Mark Zuckerberg, in…
Nor did anything compel you to read it, or post whiny comments here! I did choose to work for Facebook. The pitch I was given seven years ago was that (1) the mission of the company is to lower costs of building community and connecting people; running an ad-funded social media platform is the means to that end. That's not a mission that is super important to me, but I can respect it. And (2) FB is the company that i…
> Your statement that I wish I could continue to work for and enrich Zuck is false. I was regretted attrition.
Perhaps you should make it more clear in the blog post that you left of your own accord. People who are not familiar with the Facebook org chart might not understand that when you say "My team — Probabilistic Programming Languages — and indeed entire “Probability” division were laid off a couple weeks ago" that you yourself are not included in that set of people who were laid off.
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#355> News flash: no one wants to wear VR goggles to spend any time in a digital heaven where the role of God is played by Mark Zuckerberg and you can do anything you can imagine, including “work” and “shop”. I'm sure no-one here likes the idea of the Metaverse but from Meta's perspective I definitely think it's the correct bet. This doesn't make it less dystopian but that's exactly the point. If they can pull it off the…
I haven't watched this particular video yet, but a similar explainer video that I came across this week has me feeling a lot like "Those who have forgotten Second Life seemed doomed to repeat it (badly)". I had a bit of a rough moment realizing that statistically most of the engineers at Meta are probably too young to remember Second Life. (And some of the ones that are old enough like Mark Zuckerberg were too busy i…
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#356"Everyone was kind, smart, dedicated, thoughtful, generous with their time and knowledge, and a genuine pleasure to work with." I know this is what everyone says after leaving a company if they don't want to burn bridges, and I bet it's even fairly true to Eric's experience. I'm also entirely sympathetic to his frustration with both the immediate experience of being laid off for any reason and the broader large-organ…
I'm 100% sincere in that praise of my colleagues. Many people, myself included, had a lot of concerns about the products the company was building and their effects on the world. When you work on a team whose mission is to help other teams make better decisions at lower cost, the aim is to look at the whole system and improve the whole thing. Let me give you an example. Most "this content doesn't belong on FB" decisio…
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#357I should have left years earlier, but money was good, and change was hard to think about. Fluffy handcuffs.
2 years later, Org still survives. Best guess is they are in rebuilding stage. No love lost.
Take your time to recharge the batteries.
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#358Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have no data to back this up, but if I had to bet I’d guess that the large majority of Meta employees - along with shareholders - are also strongly opposed to the company’s new focus.
Well, there are plenty of talented engineers who would be happy to work on AR and VR … You are off though. I know plenty of Meta people both inside and outside of the Reality Labs division and they love it. No offense, but “I have no data to back this up, but … (shareholders and employees of a company I don’t have inside knowledge of think X) ” is lame discourse.
As for my comment being “lame discourse”, fair enough, but why does that apply to my comment and not the one I was replying to?
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#359"Everyone was kind, smart, dedicated, thoughtful, generous with their time and knowledge, and a genuine pleasure to work with." I know this is what everyone says after leaving a company if they don't want to burn bridges, and I bet it's even fairly true to Eric's experience. I'm also entirely sympathetic to his frustration with both the immediate experience of being laid off for any reason and the broader large-organ…
I'm 100% sincere in that praise of my colleagues. Many people, myself included, had a lot of concerns about the products the company was building and their effects on the world. When you work on a team whose mission is to help other teams make better decisions at lower cost, the aim is to look at the whole system and improve the whole thing. Let me give you an example. Most "this content doesn't belong on FB" decisio…
I think reading that this type of solution was created, and person who worked on it was laid off, makes me very sad as a Data Scientist.
I enjoy working as a Data Scientist, but I struggle a lot with the field. Lots of jobs are mostly about grabbing eyeballs or selling something. Some jobs are just total bullshit. Even the ones where you're doing something concrete (e.g. keeping a machine running), some days you still wonder if it really matters in the long run.
But with some of these social media safety topics, it can feel like a job has some meaning beyond just shuffling numbers around on an spreadsheet.
So it's disappointing to hear that people with the skills to create something like that are fired.
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#360Earlier quoted context omitted.
> post-PhD
> I’ve never filed a patent, written a publication, nor given a talk. When written in a single sentence, it implies that you have never written a publication, post- or pre- or during- a PhD. I will rephrase my question: have you, or have you not, written a publication?