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CT scan shows there's still lots of toner left in an “empty” cartridge

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Re: CT scan shows there's still lots of toner left in an “empty” cartridge

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Does it? It’s a dying industry. When was the last time you printed anything?

Got kids? All the damn time. Have craft-related hobbies? All the damn time. Patterns, instructions, et c. Despite having a shitload of iPads and extra laptops and such around. Paper's far nicer in many cases, and sometimes cannot be replaced by a screen of any kind.

Given your comment, you may like : https://www.templatemaker.nl/en/

No use for iPad though...

Re: CT scan shows there's still lots of toner left in an “empty” cartridge

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This is outrageous. Only a small percentage of owners know this kind of tricks. Imagine the environmental damage created by thousands of users throwing away perfectly usable cartridges. I always feel bad about throwing away laser printer cartridges, they have so many components that are working just fine, there should be a way to just refill the toner and reuse it.

If you think that’s bad, consider that some printers are literally cheaper to buy than the ink replacements. Since new printers come with cartridges it can be cheaper to just buy a whole new printer whenever you run out of ink

Beware that some printers come with cartridges that are the same size as refills but contain less ink/toner (or are at least programmed to tell the printer they have less)

Re: CT scan shows there's still lots of toner left in an “empty” cartridge

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I bought a Canon ImageClass MF210 for $99 many years ago and it works flawlessly (as long as you don't need to print color). It never forces me to change the toner (I'm merely forced to swap it out when the print starts getting to faint). It also happily accepts cheap, knock off toner replacement cartridges without any sort of modification.

Re: CT scan shows there's still lots of toner left in an “empty” cartridge

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Does it? It’s a dying industry. When was the last time you printed anything?

Haven't done much government contracting where documents are required to be submitted on paper in triplicate, eh? Sometimes I think I've singlehandedly kept one paper mill open with my current project. E: With the submittals I'm preparing this morning, I expect to print just north of a thousand pages of documentation by the end of the day.

I know a guy who does printer support for biiiig (1 ton, length of the room, $100k+ easily) printers.

He takes stacks of paper. Running a 500 page ream through is a test. If it is something like streaking, which requires hunting down and cleaning up toner leaks and accumulations, he can run many many tests...

Feel not guilt for actual valid use.

Re: CT scan shows there's still lots of toner left in an “empty” cartridge

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post #9

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Does it? It’s a dying industry. When was the last time you printed anything?

nervously looks at the tabletop RPG and CCG shelves next to my printer

Had a friend who was brilliant with a ink printer and cutter who made multiple armies of printed, cut, folded miniatures. He was ridiculously good with precision. And patience...

Re: CT scan shows there's still lots of toner left in an “empty” cartridge

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post #167

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No. They just run X pages and assume the cartridge is empty. You can reset it with some faintly annoying incantations, and I'd suggest doing so until you notice actual print quality issues. Especially on black. The logic is... reasonably sound from a print quality perspective. "We know the cartridge can print XXXX pages of reasonable coverage without any fading/dropouts/etc. If the user replaces it at that point, the…

You can gently turn the cartridge over and, back and forth. This will shake toner loose, and you can turn a "gray" cartridge black again. But you may also get a little toner on you or the floor, so beware.

Yes, and if you're trying to save every penny, that's reasonable. Brother doesn't prevent you from doing this, you just have to look up the toner counter reset process, which is trivially found online.

It's exceedingly unreasonable for something like a small office printer to have people constantly reprinting things because the toner is almost, but not entirely out, so please remove the cartridge, shake it gently, etc. Remember, the paper you're spending on partial prints and the toner you're applying isn't free either, and people's time isn't, either. Neither is the carpet cleaning of the toner spot in front of the printer from people trying to stretch it.

I'll reset the counter on mine, give it a shake, and run it until I see any impact on printing, but as soon as I notice any streaking, I just replace the cartridge. It's not worth the hassle to fight for 100 pages of toner to me at this point in my life.

Re: CT scan shows there's still lots of toner left in an “empty” cartridge

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I bought a Samsung printer a few years ago. A couple of months later, I discovered that Samsung's printer arm had been acquired by Hewlett-Packard - the company I least wanted to buy a printer from. My printer has no number pad. It has a horrible menu system you navigate with arrow-keys. The cartridge it came with was tiny - it lasted for less than a ream. But the replacement I bought is still going strong (I don't p…

My laser Samsung from 2013 has a just small display and simple function buttons. But I never got an original cartridge - the replacement I can get online are far cheaper and cost me about 8.50 EUR without the delivery cost. The printer works but paper feeder rollers seem to struggle now. I'm afraid that once it gets broken beyond any repair I'll have to get new which will chain me to official supplies. ghacks.net [1]…

You might want to look into cleaning and lubricating your rollers. Paper creates a lot of dust that could be causing the issue.

Re: CT scan shows there's still lots of toner left in an “empty” cartridge

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The printer industry needs a revolution.

https://www.sakura-house.com/sakura_tips/printing-and-copyin... The revolution has already occurred in some places. If I need a print job there's a printer within five minutes walk from me, I actually have a couple of places I could walk to. It's less than 10 yen for black and white, 50 to 80 yen for color.

I've put over 10000 of pages through my $150 laser printer at a consumables cost of about $0.02 per page, resulting in an amortized cost (including the printer) of $0.035 per page.

Re: CT scan shows there's still lots of toner left in an “empty” cartridge

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If you have a Samsung laserprinter with number pad and empty toner / imaging unit try menu # 1904 menu and reset the counter, then happily print thousands of pages more

This is outrageous. Only a small percentage of owners know this kind of tricks. Imagine the environmental damage created by thousands of users throwing away perfectly usable cartridges. I always feel bad about throwing away laser printer cartridges, they have so many components that are working just fine, there should be a way to just refill the toner and reuse it.

Also intentionally telling your users they are out when they aren't is literally fraud.

Re: CT scan shows there's still lots of toner left in an “empty” cartridge

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post #55

Manufacturers want to provide a product that produces reliable high quality prints. That's why the toner low warning comes up very early, so that there's no chance that your important documents look unprofessional due to low toner levels. As a consumer, naturally, you can almost always ignore the warning and use the toner until you can't even read granny's apple pie recipe anymore.

This is being a bit too generous. If that were the case, they could provide a warning about print quality instead of just saying that the toner is low. But then people wouldn't be as compelled to needlessly buy more overpriced printer supplies.

Yes. The "print quality" excuse provides plausible deniability (to some audiences), but in reality they are intentionally misleading customers.
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