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Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by chung8123 »

ouid wrote: post #56
bamboozled wrote: post #42

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No one is stopping you from buying a Linux based phone? I'm an avid Linux user and an avid Apple user, and I think both systems have their merits. If I had to have only one it would be Linux.

>No one is stopping you from buying a Linux based phone? What is this supposed to be an argument for? Do you think this is an own? Is this statement made in good faith? Did you really let your 10th grade economics teacher tell you what a "monopoly" was and then never question either the usefulness or the validity of the definition?

There is a difference between an monopoly and a moat. I think the previous statement is saying that if you want to own your phone you can choose a different path and apple probably isn't the phone you should choose.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by darkwizard42 »

ouid wrote: post #56
bamboozled wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one is stopping you from buying a Linux based phone? I'm an avid Linux user and an avid Apple user, and I think both systems have their merits. If I had to have only one it would be Linux.

>No one is stopping you from buying a Linux based phone? What is this supposed to be an argument for? Do you think this is an own? Is this statement made in good faith? Did you really let your 10th grade economics teacher tell you what a "monopoly" was and then never question either the usefulness or the validity of the definition?

What the parent is likely trying to point out is that Apple has no obligation to give you the feature the way you want it (in fact, Apple seems to view not providing flexibility as the feature). If you feel this strongly about the feature, then using a different phone (which there are many) is available.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by [deleted] »

donmcronald wrote: post #27
dmitrygr wrote: post #11

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> What problems does it cause to make the locked down experience the default with the option for me to disable that and take control of the device after I buy it? Facebook will demand you use FacebookStore, which will NOT force apps transparency. THAT is the issue!

I don't really see the difference between Facebook leveraging their social network platform to strong arm users into using a Facebook store and Apple leveraging their hardware platform to strong arm users into using the Apple app store. Both of them are bad for users. I think the way things would shake out is that most app developers would want to have their app in as many stores as possible. Combine that with stores…

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Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by Gigachad »

jvanderbot wrote: post #50
bamboozled wrote: post #43

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Spotify is the last subscription I'll cancel. It's been life changing since it came out. I never wanted it to curate music for me, I wanted a massive catalog I can summon at will. The fact that it does an ok job at curating lists is just bonus.

I still pay for Spotify despite getting YouTube music with premium. But Spotify is still worlds better than the competition.

And I agree that it is monopolistic that Apple gets to both have their service preinstalled, and allow subscriptions in app without an extra charge.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by Gigachad »

threeseed wrote: post #58
Daishiman wrote: post #49

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"Don't buy Apple" is not actionable advice in a duopoly.

Except that it isn't a duopoly. There are hundreds of phones available and most have different variations of Android with their own features and restrictions.

100 copies of the same two choices is not competition.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by jagger27 »

carl_dr wrote: post #57
donmcronald wrote: post #23

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The car industry is going to change drastically in the next decade and it's going to result in much higher ownership costs, especially for used car buyers. The schemes that are going to ruin ownership for a lot of people are just starting. The manufacturers are all going to start locking features behind subscriptions. Things like heated seats, navigation, phone integration, performance, etc. will be premium features…

Added to that, wait until all cars are electric, and they filter down the secondhand market. The average price of a 10-year old car in the UK, as of Sept 2022, is £6100 - pretty much the same as a replacement battery pack, which will be due after 8-10 years. That’s going to have quite an effect on 3rd owners of cars, who buy 8-10 year old cars, especially if they have the added costs of subscriptions to deal with.

It’s already environmentally worse to buy a newly built electric car than it is to keep your current gas one (or buy a used one).

The battery wear problem only makes this worse.

The real solution is of course to heavily reduce our reliance on cars but highways and stroads keep being built.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by SllX »

mandeepj wrote: post #38
mrguyorama wrote: post #36

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Hard to fall on your face when you have ARMIES of normal people all jockeying to put the pillow under you for free

Are you certain we can call them normal?

Zealots are a normal feature of human society, so yes.

Re: Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo

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Post by cramjabsyn »

“Over and over again @Apple gives itself every advantage while at the same time stifling innovation and hurting consumers.”

That’s funny Ek. Seems like Spotify gives itself every advantage while at the same time stifling innovation and hurting musicians.

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