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GIMP Turns 27

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Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Still no adjustment layers, still no layer styles. It’s so easy to just critique away…but really? Really? Those are just absolutely essential image editing software features. What have they been prioritizing ahead of that?

At this point I don’t think it’s controversial to say that this project existing has harmed creative tools on Linux. If another project had become the de-facto we’d have all those basic features. Instead we’re stuck with something that almost provides the basics ok, because it exists people treat it like a solved problem, and it has such a history no one’s allowed to say it just frankly isn’t usable for it’s one job.

Personally I credit GIMP for making me learn imagemagick.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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> What have they been prioritizing ahead of that? There are very few active maintainers, what few there are have been scratching their own itches.

That's evident. I've used the tool periodically and I can't think of anything that's improved in the last 10 years. I think it actually got worse when they made all the icons greyscale and hid some under others. You still have 3 different tools for moving, resizing, and rotating when every other program has them all in one.

> I've used the tool periodically and I can't think of anything that's improved in the last 10 years.

Have you contributed to it any any way?

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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In some ways the de facto standard now is http://www.photopea.com in a browser.

GIMP I've used for years and years, never heard of photopea, was the comment a SPAM Ad spot?

No, photopea is pretty well known now. Mentionned a few times on HN too

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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GIMP is legendary. One of the first FOSS projects I ever used. I pirated Photoshop soon after trying it. Krita ( https://github.com/KDE/krita | https://krita.org/en/ ) is a more intuitive UX imo.

Krita is better in any conceivable way.

Can’t I just choose any feature available in Gimp and not in Krita and disprove your point. Sorry if I’m missing obvious hyperbole.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

#85
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Alternatively, if you want a circle and not a disk, after filling the circular selection, shrink it by whatever thickness, and then delete. But I have felt no need for drawing circles. Those should be done in Inkscape. I am not sure they should be in a photo processing app.

I use Gimp and Inkscape a few times per month, not professionally. But for silly graphics, I prefer Paintbrush[1]. I agree that for complex drawings where you should align multiple objects and be able to adjust the width and other properties of the color, it's better to use Inkscape. But for throwaway screenshots with a big red arrow or a circle around the part I want to highlight, I prefer Paintbrush. Is it possible…

> But for throwaway screenshots with a big red arrow or a circle around the part I want to highlight

On KDE, the Spectacle screenshot tool comes with an "annotate" button that does exactly this. I agree this kind of stuff is very convenient, bonus points with a touchscreen.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Alternatively, if you want a circle and not a disk, after filling the circular selection, shrink it by whatever thickness, and then delete. But I have felt no need for drawing circles. Those should be done in Inkscape. I am not sure they should be in a photo processing app.

I use Gimp and Inkscape a few times per month, not professionally. But for silly graphics, I prefer Paintbrush[1]. I agree that for complex drawings where you should align multiple objects and be able to adjust the width and other properties of the color, it's better to use Inkscape. But for throwaway screenshots with a big red arrow or a circle around the part I want to highlight, I prefer Paintbrush. Is it possible…

I use it to annotate screenshots also. But I have hand-drawn all my arrows and "circles" with the Brush tool.

If you want precision, you could use the "Paths" tool and then trace using a Brush.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Still no adjustment layers, still no layer styles. It’s so easy to just critique away…but really? Really? Those are just absolutely essential image editing software features. What have they been prioritizing ahead of that?

Adjustment layers are on the 3.2 roadmap. https://developer.gimp.org/core/roadmap/#gimp-32

No idea what the timing of that version is.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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For it to have such a bad UX after 27 years is a feat in itself. I can't fathom that to this day people present it as an alternative to Photoshop where it's little more than an unusable Paint. I mean, photopea.com is free, developed by a single guy, and runs in the browser, and it's light years ahead of Gimp.

GIMP is the only software whose UI makes me feel completely stupid. Every 1-2 years, I install it, fire it up to crop an image. I stare at the screen, right click a few times, then I close the app after admitting total defeat. It's been like this for 20 years.

A few years ago, I found out that Irfanview runs under Wine. It's a great feeling to understand the UI of a program.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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For it to have such a bad UX after 27 years is a feat in itself. I can't fathom that to this day people present it as an alternative to Photoshop where it's little more than an unusable Paint. I mean, photopea.com is free, developed by a single guy, and runs in the browser, and it's light years ahead of Gimp.

>and it's light years ahead of Gimp. Photopea makes millions. Maybe if people donated to support Gimp's development it wouldn't be that behind.

Gimp would get more donations if they put more effort into making it approachable and accessible. It's a problem with community-driven projects in many contexts: it's so worthy that criticism is stifled, even where this would lead to improvement and needed growth in the community.

Re: GIMP Turns 27

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Still no adjustment layers, still no layer styles. It’s so easy to just critique away…but really? Really? Those are just absolutely essential image editing software features. What have they been prioritizing ahead of that?

> What have they been prioritizing ahead of that?

Gnome integration and Wayland as far as I can tell from its roadmap. So basically staying functional under the ADHD driven development model that is the Linux desktop environment. A bit hilarious that Gimp now has a hard time staying up to date with Gnomes Gtk when Gtk was originally an UI lib for Gimp.

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