This seems nice but I just don't see myself using this over WAMP/MAMP. It's a cinch to install and of course gives you a mysql setup right away to start your codes. Plus it's likely closer to your production environment anyway (if you're on LAMP). So what's the real use case for this then?
PHP 5.4 Has A Built-In Development Web Server
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Re: PHP 5.4 Has A Built-In Development Web Server
#12And some idiot somewhere is going to use it in production in 3... 2... 1...
What do you think is so magical about Apache that qualifies it for production use?
Just to annoy you, I think I'm going to setup a netcat instance where I type the response to HTTP requests when I'm in the mood.
Re: PHP 5.4 Has A Built-In Development Web Server
#13And some idiot somewhere is going to use it in production in 3... 2... 1...
What do you think is so magical about Apache that qualifies it for production use? Just to annoy you, I think I'm going to setup a netcat instance where I type the response to HTTP requests when I'm in the mood.
Sounds like a job for mechanical turk.
Re: PHP 5.4 Has A Built-In Development Web Server
#14I spend most of my time writing either erlang or node web apps, its terribly annoying when I switch to python / php / ruby and get told I have to configure some web server to get started. I have had a ruby/python app start a development server but still suggest I configure against apache for production Its an absolute dream to be able to just download an application, compile it, start it, point nginx at it and bam, i…
TL;DR: if possible, create a develop environment which is as close as the live environment
I think developing servers are only good for people writing libraries or frameworks to get started. I might understand that people want to choose a small and easy to set up webserver to get going when starting developing a website.
But, in my opinion, as soon as you're getting serious, there's nothing better than developing on a system which as close as possible to your live environment (hardware is hard to mimic, so are websites running in the cloud) including same webserver and software configurations.
Of course this means that you either:
a) have any influence on software installed or b) know what is installed and how it is configured on the live system
I encountered several bugs which happen to be only on staging / live server, but which I did not encounter in my development environment. Why? Different OS. At this point, I'm trying to recreate my live-systems in virtual machines as close as possible. This is not perfect hardware-wise, and software still might behave differently, but it's damn close.
Another plus: I'm on a rolling release distribution and software packages are updating fast. This can be problematic when developing websites and applications. All my server-software is in the VM. I can choose when and what to update, problem solved. It also keeps my desktop clean, no stuff installed for developing purposes.
There's nothing worse than developing on a windows* machine and deploying on a unix-based os.
* nothing against windows developers. Point is: different OSs behave differently.
Re: PHP 5.4 Has A Built-In Development Web Server
#15And some idiot somewhere is going to use it in production in 3... 2... 1...
What do you think is so magical about Apache that qualifies it for production use? Just to annoy you, I think I'm going to setup a netcat instance where I type the response to HTTP requests when I'm in the mood.
What do you think is so magical about Apache that qualifies it for production use?
Years of bugfixing and at least some attempt to be hardened against common attacks?
Re: PHP 5.4 Has A Built-In Development Web Server
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Re: PHP 5.4 Has A Built-In Development Web Server
#17I spend most of my time writing either erlang or node web apps, its terribly annoying when I switch to python / php / ruby and get told I have to configure some web server to get started. I have had a ruby/python app start a development server but still suggest I configure against apache for production Its an absolute dream to be able to just download an application, compile it, start it, point nginx at it and bam, i…
TL;DR: if possible, create a develop environment which is as close as the live environment I think developing servers are only good for people writing libraries or frameworks to get started. I might understand that people want to choose a small and easy to set up webserver to get going when starting developing a website. But, in my opinion, as soon as you're getting serious, there's nothing better than developing on…
I definitely agree, when I was talking about erlang + node.js I was talking about developing with production web servers that are embedded in your application