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The last three years of my work will be permanently abandoned

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Re: The last three years of my work will be permanently abandoned

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I wish Mr. Lippert and his team well. > But after >26 years of thinking about programming languages for corporations, and the last three years of my work being thrown away, I need a good long corporate detox before I go looking again. OMG, can I relate to this. The chances are good, that, if he can support himself; even if not at oriental levels of luxury, he will not want to return. That has been my experience. Come…

What is the water?

Re: The last three years of my work will be permanently abandoned

#62
Author mentions that his team's work saved "millions" of dollars for Meta every year - let's assume that's $10 million. Meta's operating expenses are over $80 billion annually. That's barely one hundredth of a percent in savings for Meta.

I'm sure they were doing interesting work otherwise, but it make sense why the team would be considered for cuts if there weren't any breakthroughs on the horizon.

Re: The last three years of my work will be permanently abandoned

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Such a weird decision given the results they indicate. Was there any rational thought behind the layoffs beyond giving the metaverse more dollars?

Yeah I overlapped with that team at FB, and they were freaking amazing. That being said, I suspect that it was a Thunderdome type situation where two teams enter, one team leaves. It doesn't end up reflecting the value delivered as much as the perceived value.

> perceived value.

I think that’s the critical word here. Perception is reality when it comes to these things. I have no idea but I’d assume decision makers do not perceive enough future value coming from this team to make it worth keeping them on. They could be wrong but no one will ever really know.

Re: The last three years of my work will be permanently abandoned

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3 years of work being thrown away is not a big deal. Imagine a retail employee complaining about how nobody cares what they did the past 3 years. I don't see a difference.

Seriously, this headline gave me a chuckle. Like I'm sure it feels bad or whatever but it's weird when anything I build for pay isn't dead and gone within three years, either replaced or simply abandoned for various reasons. My first thought was that "first time?" hanging-scene meme.

Re: The last three years of my work will be permanently abandoned

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post #61

I wish Mr. Lippert and his team well. > But after >26 years of thinking about programming languages for corporations, and the last three years of my work being thrown away, I need a good long corporate detox before I go looking again. OMG, can I relate to this. The chances are good, that, if he can support himself; even if not at oriental levels of luxury, he will not want to return. That has been my experience. Come…

What is the water?

The Write the Code You Want, Without Middle Managers and Clueless Coworkers Interfering Sea.

Re: The last three years of my work will be permanently abandoned

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post #62

Author mentions that his team's work saved "millions" of dollars for Meta every year - let's assume that's $10 million. Meta's operating expenses are over $80 billion annually. That's barely one hundredth of a percent in savings for Meta. I'm sure they were doing interesting work otherwise, but it make sense why the team would be considered for cuts if there weren't any breakthroughs on the horizon.

If the team is costing less than $10 million/year, it still makes less sense to let them go.

Re: The last three years of my work will be permanently abandoned

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What costs were being saved? I am assuming hardware/cloud type costs? Or was it making people more efficient, working on the right stuff instead of the wrong stuff?

It sounds like they were working with a gun to their head, with the short lived projects run in a survival of the fittest short-lifecycle way. Kind of sounds exhausting!

I had a funny thought: The best team to be on during cutbacks is the probabilistic programming team that optimizes who to cut.

Re: The last three years of my work will be permanently abandoned

#68

Such a weird decision given the results they indicate. Was there any rational thought behind the layoffs beyond giving the metaverse more dollars?

Meta is never going to solve their apple problem by cutting costs. To get back to their old numbers they need users on a platform where they make the rules, not apple.

Re: The last three years of my work will be permanently abandoned

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post #54

3 years of work being thrown away is not a big deal. Imagine a retail employee complaining about how nobody cares what they did the past 3 years. I don't see a difference.

Nah, this is a huge deal for some of us. Many of us put in years of work for something to be thrown away without a second thought, all of our time and effort for nothing. I am someone who wants to build long lasting, useful systems. When my last employer was acquired and killed it really, really upset me to see all my hard work and my coworkers hard work destroyed. I’d go so far as to say it seriously affected my vie…

Of course it's a huge deal. What they're saying is that it happens. Constantly.

Sometimes I even ponder if my decades-worth experience is not basically because I'm writing the same program over and over again, just for different companies...

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