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Why Is It So Hard for Men to Make Close Friends?

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Re: Why Is It So Hard for Men to Make Close Friends?

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I moved to a city. One reason was that the car-dominated suburbs makes it reaaaally hard to make friends. Time from getting out of bed to meeting someone is like 30-45minutes, and I have to spend money. In the city,it is more like 15 minutes, meaning you can do it twice as often, hang out longer. I would say this is a big factor. The country side works so long as your friends are close by for beer, movies, and games?…

> Time from getting out of bed to meeting someone is like 30-45minutes, and I have to spend money. In the city,it is more like 15 minutes, meaning you can do it twice as often, hang out longer.

How tightly packed is your calendar that this makes such an enormous difference?

I'm asking because I always met my friends in the city centre, to which the commute alone from my place was 45min.

Re: Why Is It So Hard for Men to Make Close Friends?

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Did you? Just the other day I had someone assume I was the husband of a woman I was helping out, I certainly didn't think that was enough to make judgements, nor did I feel the need to correct them. If someone making an innocuous assumption is enough to for you to determine they're a prick, maybe you're the prick?

He clearly said that IF someone is a dick about it / a prick he just ignores them.

> I don't think anyone ever thought I'm gay because I hang out with him, but if they did I just don't care. My mate is more important to me than some random prick's opinion.

They very clearly did not say that.

Re: Why Is It So Hard for Men to Make Close Friends?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He clearly said that IF someone is a dick about it / a prick he just ignores them.

> I don't think anyone ever thought I'm gay because I hang out with him, but if they did I just don't care. My mate is more important to me than some random prick's opinion. They very clearly did not say that.

I read it that the implication someone makes about him potentially being gay would only be an issue if that person implies that in a negative way and not just as an neutral observation which then would make it totally valid to say they are pricks.

Re: Why Is It So Hard for Men to Make Close Friends?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't think anyone ever thought I'm gay because I hang out with him, but if they did I just don't care. My mate is more important to me than some random prick's opinion. They very clearly did not say that.

I read it that the implication someone makes about him potentially being gay would only be an issue if that person implies that in a negative way and not just as an neutral observation which then would make it totally valid to say they are pricks.

right, the implication is that the assumption is dickish behavior and I emphatically disagree with that.

Re: Why Is It So Hard for Men to Make Close Friends?

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post #71
post #47

I moved to a city. One reason was that the car-dominated suburbs makes it reaaaally hard to make friends. Time from getting out of bed to meeting someone is like 30-45minutes, and I have to spend money. In the city,it is more like 15 minutes, meaning you can do it twice as often, hang out longer. I would say this is a big factor. The country side works so long as your friends are close by for beer, movies, and games?…

> Time from getting out of bed to meeting someone is like 30-45minutes, and I have to spend money. In the city,it is more like 15 minutes, meaning you can do it twice as often, hang out longer. How tightly packed is your calendar that this makes such an enormous difference? I'm asking because I always met my friends in the city centre, to which the commute alone from my place was 45min.

It is less about a packed calendar and more about being able to say yes to spontaneous invites.

Friend, “Hey man, I’m at the coffee shop. Want to join me?” Me, “ya, sure. Be there in 15min.” No prep, and no money spent (well, maybe a train fare if you can’t walk or ride a bike).

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