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Libraries that have a scope defined implicitly by what accidentally works or doesn’t work can still be very annoying.
Based on this reasoning, C is a leaky abstraction because you can inline asm into a C program.
All abstractions are leaky; some are useful
I have recently started using Tailwind. I've been writing CSS since it was invented in the 90s. I'd consider myself a CSS expert. I'm using Svelte (components). When Tailwind doesn't do what I want, I write a quick CSS class. I also don't like the long class strings in the HTML, and haven't yet found a good workaround for that, but in general. I like Tailwind.
Are you familiar with @apply? I've found this useful when I notice that I am reusing styles for things that repeat again and again, like form fields or buttons. https://tailwindcss.com/docs/reusing-styles#extracting-class...
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Tbh a lot of times when people say beginner they really mean “this is way easier than the way I’m used to, and that freaks me out because it means the old way is redundant, so I’ll claim this is for beginners”
By beginners, I meant people who know HTML and some CSS, but not enough to design a great UI. Tailwind allows them to add a few classnames and the page looks great. On the flip side, you have a developer who can design using CSS. Tailwind comes along and, although it’s great, you’re learning new classnames and now you’re no longer using web standard properties (CSS).
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Maybe I'm going out of a limb here, but wasn't the whole point of CSS to not have to touch the markup when changing the styling? Not trying to talk Tailwind down, I have just missed a lot of the evolution of web design in the past 15 or so years.
I've never understood the point of separating markup from the design. I've seen CSS Zen Garden and... neat? But I don't get the point in real-world use. I've never had to redesign a UI in a way where I'd only change CSS and not also be moving around markup in the process. And once you're changing both of those things, there's the overhead of cross-referencing and keeping names and hierarchy in sync. At that point I d…
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It absolutely isn’t a very fancy bootstrap, that would be more like DaisyUI
Okay you pointed me at a Tailwind plugin that provides Bootstrap classes. I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
I was refuting this as it is not really the same, and pointing to you something (a UI library built with Tailwind) which is more logically comparable to Bootstrap.
Sometimes I wonder why we don‘t use inline css more often instead of tailwind.
These are fairly complex use-cases that aren't needed for 99.9% of CSS people write. In most cases I'm throwing together a handful of components in a flex container or right-aligning some buttons or something. And for that typical CSS usecase, I find Tailwind way better both for quickly iterating and for hopping into code someone else wrote. I love not having to bounce between and cross-reference 2 (or more!) files (…
Tailwind is honestly great for beginners since it "simplifies" CSS into short-hand classes. The people that know CSS don't want to learn new classnames when they can use CSS and that is a standard. I'm personally scared of forgetting CSS if I use Tailwind extensively. I also don't like the aesthetic of all the classnames being bunched together, but Tailwind does have value.
Tailwind has made building components in React an absolute joy for me. I don't need to scroll up to find my css-in-js definitions, I don't need to change windows to find the CSS modules, it's all there, in one place.
I hope what you describe will eventually be true for me, but so far the purported benefit of not jumping around isn't being realized. After 5 weeks of using Tailwind every day, I still have to switch between my file and the Tailwind docs fairly often to look up whatever shortcut classes I need. So far I just miss CSS modules. Having my .tsx and .scss files both visible in split screen wasn't so bad.