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Re: Emacs 29 is nigh

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Post by jpe90 »

hvis wrote: post #179
jpe90 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh I see, I build from source but I’ve been using the same configure options forever (just native comp and rename the ctags binary). I’ll look them over again.

Check that you have `libjansson-dev` installed, or whatever is the equivalent on your system.

Looks like I’ve got that on my machine, and I built Emacs —with-json this time. Performance is still better but it’s still stuttery.

I guess it’s related to either the json parsing happening on the main thread and/or the LSP servers using company-capf which I think is a synchronous backend?

It seems like coc.nvim, lsp bridge, kak-lsp, and other editor solution’s i’ve come across all opt to use sidecar processes that manage lsp. Perhaps Elisp isn’t the right tool for that backend processing.

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Post by sobkas »

For example I use https://github.com/ergoemacs/ergoemacs-mode, with some commands that I have acquired as muscle memory from using Emacs/mg for long. And still I use nano when I need to do small edits to a file. I also do it almost without thinking about it, especially when doing "sudo nano whatever". Mg should be better for me, but nano is engraved into my palms for some reason.

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Post by wara23arish »

bergheim wrote: post #64
teucris wrote: post #50

Watching the Emacs community, I’m always just blown away by the love and adoration it gets. It’s clear to me that there’s something magical in it, but I can’t seem to tap that magic for myself. I’ve tried - really tried, including relearning lisp - to adopt Emacs roughly four times over my career; it never stuck. I understand the basic benefits, eg keyboard-optimized workflows, deep customization/malleability, etc. B…

What I tell my programming friends is that if you can see yourself molding your computer user-interface as sort of a hobby, then emacs is most definately for you. If you don't see that as a fun past-time activity, then I would not recommend emacs. For instance, (in my emacs email client) I just made a change where if I want to search the subject I am looking at, and it has a #XXX in it, then the subject search is jus…

which email client do you use?

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Post by wara23arish »

ilovecaching wrote: post #19
jmmv wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but what about remote support? That’s the single most thing I miss from VSCode. I want to run my editor on the local machine so that it can benefit from graphics support and integrate properly with the local windowing system, but I want all heavy lifting (LSP and the like) done on a remote machine. Yes, I can use Emacs over SSH (which I do now), but it has limitations. Yes, I could forward X11, but it’s pretty t…

You can try using emacsserver remotely. I would recommend using SSH proxying instead of messing with emacs over tcp. Personally I use emacs on a large dev machine running in a container in a terminal emulator. I can work from my iPad Pro, iPhone, MacBook Pro, Windows Desktop, Linux Desktop, or any guest machine by just adding one public key. Terminal Emulators are still just GUI apps and fit into the GUI ecosystem. M…

do you any tips on how to set this up? or maybe point me in the right direction?

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Post by kickingvegas »

modernerd wrote: post #8

Wow, Eglot/Treesitter/better package support in 29 make me want to try Emacs again. > Install packages from source with package.el Emacs users updating to 29: do you plan to use this instead of Straight now? If not, can you help me to understand what more Straight provides? Emacs on macOS users: do you generally compile new versions of Emacs from source, or wait for ports like Mitsuharu Yamamoto's one[1] to update? […

I use the MacPorts build of Mitsuharu Yamamoto's port https://ports.macports.org/port/emacs-app/

Re: Emacs 29 is nigh

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Post by aeonik »

bergheim wrote: post #43

I am loving all this emacs love lately (I am an emacsophile), but I do find all this attention it is getting suddenly a bit surprising. Is it just that "long lines, LSP, fast syntax hightlighting" is making new people interested, or is it just us neckbeards coming out of the woods? I mean, many of these things are just a package-install away right now. I seldom see vim put in the same lime-light, for instance. Or may…

For me, I just changed my note taking system to Logseq last summer which supports org formatted notes. I had heard about org mode, but it seemed like too much trouble to learn Emacs for note taking.

Cue Distrotube on YouTube creating a series that makes it really easy to get started with Doom Emacs, and cue me wanting to learn Clojure combined with it being to hard to modify VSCode's Calva and Cursive... and I finally had enough arrows pointing toward Emacs.

Best decision I've ever made. Emacs is slowly consuming all of my workflows. I finally feel like I have the editor of my dreams, it's just a little rough around the edges still.

I hope to contribute to it once I get better.

Re: Emacs 29 is nigh

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Post by heintje_ghulam »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #145
bergheim wrote: post #43

I am loving all this emacs love lately (I am an emacsophile), but I do find all this attention it is getting suddenly a bit surprising. Is it just that "long lines, LSP, fast syntax hightlighting" is making new people interested, or is it just us neckbeards coming out of the woods? I mean, many of these things are just a package-install away right now. I seldom see vim put in the same lime-light, for instance. Or may…

Casual emacs user since 1991, and from my POV ... it seems like maybe a confluence of things (lsp, treesitter, etc.) is bringing some people back into the Emacs folds. For years emacs is what I used for C/C++ coding. Then CLion came on the scene, and it would be very hard for me to walk away that from and train my fingers back to meta super land. But it does seem like Emacs is getting competitive as an alternative to…

Hi! Happy to see someone interested in using Emacs for Julia work.

I recommend the following packages for your setup:

julia-vterm (https://melpa.org/#/julia-vterm) (https://github.com/shg/julia-vterm.el)

ob-julia-vterm (https://melpa.org/#/ob-julia-vterm) (https://github.com/shg/ob-julia-vterm.el)

FYI, julia-vterm depends on:

julia-mode (https://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/julia-mode.html) (https://github.com/JuliaEditorSupport/julia-emacs)

vterm (https://melpa.org/#/julia-vterm) (https://github.com/akermu/emacs-libvterm)

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Post by teucris »

tmalsburg2 wrote: post #155
teucris wrote: post #50

Watching the Emacs community, I’m always just blown away by the love and adoration it gets. It’s clear to me that there’s something magical in it, but I can’t seem to tap that magic for myself. I’ve tried - really tried, including relearning lisp - to adopt Emacs roughly four times over my career; it never stuck. I understand the basic benefits, eg keyboard-optimized workflows, deep customization/malleability, etc. B…

You say "it just isn't accessible to [you]". If I'd install vanilla Emacs today or one of those distros, I'd probably feel the same, i.e. that Emacs is not for me. However, what makes Emacs great is that I can make myself at home in Emacs and design everything the way that works best for me personally, even if that is perhaps highly idiosyncratic. So my advice would be: Install Emacs and if there is something that yo…

So for you, Emacs is more like a library or editor engine than an application? That makes sense and may explain why I didn’t connect with it, in that I’m used to adapting to my tools rather than building them. I need to change contexts frequently so I’ve made myself malleable rather than my tools.

Re: Emacs 29 is nigh

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Post by blep_ »

modernerd wrote: post #18
ilovecaching wrote: post #7

I highly recommend modern Emacs over VSCode. If you don't want to tinker, Emacs has multiple levels of preconfigured distributions like Prelude, Nano, and Doom Emacs that give the same out of the box working experience. Modern Emacs includes all of the great features of VSCode, plus much more. You get things like: - LSP support for completion, refactoring, listing. - Tree sitter support for super fast highlighting. -…

This is compelling! But I ended up abandoning Emacs in previous attempts to switch to it. In case anyone can help solve the pain points I remember: 1. Which project management tools do you recommend? (I think I was using Projectile in the past, but from what I recall it left buffers from previous projects open when switching to other projects, which ended up being kind of annoying.) 2. Any advice about automatic whit…

For 1, also remember that you can just run multiple copies of emacs for different projects. Nobody says you have to use all the packages that ostensibly solve some problem you have.
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