WebTorrent

Post by TylerE » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 7:36 PM UTC

klabb3 wrote: post #12

lxgr wrote: post #5

Besides being an amazing technical achievement, I find this very interesting legally, as it further blurs the line between passively viewing content hosted somewhere and redistributing/actively sharing content. Have there already been cases of websites making their visitors unwitting peers, similar to e.g. JavaScript cryptocurrency mining?

Well spotted. In other words, WebRTC lets a site owner have their visitors distribute content directly to others without their knowledge or consent, basically making it impossible to argue that the distributor has intent to do so in the general case. That said, it was already highly questionable for legal application, since a torrent client can run on any machine connected to a home wifi, including guests and comprom…

Post by anaganisk » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 7:42 PM UTC

pyrolistical wrote: post #27

Imagine visiting a website and the ads are sent to you via webtorrent and your browser diligently reshares it. Not only do you suffer the ads, you unwittingly contribute your resources (power and bandwidth) to propagating them

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 7:56 PM UTC

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #34

Sean-Der wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't true. In 2017 appear.in published some numbers. They saw ~15% were not able to do P2P. https://medium.com/@fippo/what-kind-of-turn-server-is-being-... Reading your stackoverflow link my guess is that you aren't using STUN. A P2P connection can't be established without a NAT hole punch. Also if possible I would avoid the terms `Full-cone NAT` and `Symmetric NAT` they don't do a good job of describing what i…

> In 2017 appear.in published some numbers. They saw ~15% were not able to do P2P. https://medium.com/@fippo/what-kind-of-turn-server-is-being- ... Thank you for this. I guess P2P connectivity is more often possible than I thought! For the record, I have tried to form P2P connections with multiple different devices and multiple different network conditions, and although I have been able to achieve connectivity with P…

Post by Sean-Der » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 7:59 PM UTC

m00dy wrote: post #31

I'm building a decentralized ai marketplace and guess what? This piece of software is the backbone of our off-chain file transfer protocol. It just works; however, its seeder (BitTorrent-tracker) depends on node-webrtc, and it is not an official node package for web-rtc. It has some weird issues. For example, when you seed the torrent through BitTorrent-tracker, and on the client side (chrome browser), I used chrome:…

Post by 6510 » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 8:01 PM UTC

_def wrote: post #36

klabb3 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well spotted. In other words, WebRTC lets a site owner have their visitors distribute content directly to others without their knowledge or consent, basically making it impossible to argue that the distributor has intent to do so in the general case. That said, it was already highly questionable for legal application, since a torrent client can run on any machine connected to a home wifi, including guests and comprom…

I totally agree, that's how it should be. In reality right now there are countries in which you get cease and desist letters and a ~800 Euro fine for even a short amount of seeding. This is a cool technology but also allows more automation in this shady industry and laws will take years and years to follow up.