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In a society with rule of law, everyone deserves benefit of the doubt, always, until proven otherwise.
Balenciaga isn't facing any criminal charges, I'm talking about public opinion. If somebody shows you who they are, believe them.
Gosh, it's almost like you're describing the entirety of high fashion.
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in a post Epstein world none of these companies deserve benefit of the doubt in these types of situations. Once people dug into it they found Balenciaga has been doing similar things for years, you have to wonder why their marketing team would think this stuff appeals to their extremely rich and powerful customers
In a society with rule of law, everyone deserves benefit of the doubt, always, until proven otherwise.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
in a post Epstein world none of these companies deserve benefit of the doubt in these types of situations. Once people dug into it they found Balenciaga has been doing similar things for years, you have to wonder why their marketing team would think this stuff appeals to their extremely rich and powerful customers
In a society with rule of law, everyone deserves benefit of the doubt, always, until proven otherwise.
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In a society with rule of law, everyone deserves benefit of the doubt, always, until proven otherwise.
Do we have rule of law though? E.g. certain Russian oligarchs winning lawsuits in West because of some legalese. It feels like „rule of law“ nowadays is used to silence the weak and doesn't apply to the powerful ones.
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They filed a lawsuit claiming they didn't know about a single stray sheet of paper in one of the photos of the shoot, which looks entirely innocent on first inspection, but happens to be a court document for a famous child pornography suit. The existence of this document has been claimed by some observers (shoe, for one), to be the "smoking gun" proving that this is all satan worship rather than strange art. So it is…
Nothing hinges on this question; nothing illegal was done. You're being trolled by both Balenciaga and the Twittersphere.
Not sure about the satanic thing, as I'm an atheist myself, but to put that sort of document inside a photo-op that already looks fishy as hell is not ok, to put it mildly.
[1] https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11/28/20/65014791-11478639...
It was definitely not staged
Is staged the right term? I would call it planned or intentionally provocative. I don't follow fashion at all; the last I heard of Balenciaga was their Simpsons short. But a handful of people are some level of outraged about this which causes articles like this to get written which is somehow newsworthy enough to reach HN.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=Balencia...
I wonder why they dont go with political outrage, it's all the rage these days. Like, imagine some pictures of Epstein on that table, or something to do with vaccine controversy . gah, i think i found my new talent
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in a post Epstein world none of these companies deserve benefit of the doubt in these types of situations. Once people dug into it they found Balenciaga has been doing similar things for years, you have to wonder why their marketing team would think this stuff appeals to their extremely rich and powerful customers
In a society with rule of law, everyone deserves benefit of the doubt, always, until proven otherwise.
In a society with a court of public opinion, the exact opposite is true.
Here’s Balenciaga’s 2023 video showing off their styles for the year. This is from their own YouTube channel. Fair warning: the children shown appear to be dolls, not actual human children, but it is still disturbing: https://youtu.be/Yh_1K9s6UV0 These seem to be adults dressed as literal demons (one of them has horns on their head) many of whom are carrying (probably fake) children, and all marching through the mud.…
They filed a lawsuit claiming they didn't know about a single stray sheet of paper in one of the photos of the shoot, which looks entirely innocent on first inspection, but happens to be a court document for a famous child pornography suit. The existence of this document has been claimed by some observers (shoe, for one), to be the "smoking gun" proving that this is all satan worship rather than strange art. So it is…
High fashion photoshoots are a multi layered production. Several people would have viewed these photos, edited, adjusted, filtered out bad shots, etc prior to this campaign being released. The fact that no one seemed to bat an eye at a judicial opinion including the words "child sexualization" seems concerning. No special knowledge is required.
Here’s Balenciaga’s 2023 video showing off their styles for the year. This is from their own YouTube channel. Fair warning: the children shown appear to be dolls, not actual human children, but it is still disturbing: https://youtu.be/Yh_1K9s6UV0 These seem to be adults dressed as literal demons (one of them has horns on their head) many of whom are carrying (probably fake) children, and all marching through the mud.…
No offense but that’s just a fashion show in a setting involving some mud in the background. It looks a bit like another planet rather than hell. Also there are no children here. I’m still looking for the disturbing part.
> This next thing is considerably worse since it appears to involve pictures of actual children (I won’t link it here since it’s NSFL).
The controversy is about pictures of kids carrying bags shaped as teddy bears in chains which can make one thinks of bdsm. I repeat: the teddy bears are in chains, not the kids. It’s in bad taste but very much SFL.
I have no clue about what’s actually happening at Balenciaga but I wish people kept to facts.
