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Yes, there are plenty of delicious vegetarian dishes that don't require any kind of fake meat. We know. Please shut up since this isn't what fake-meat products solve.
Fake-meat products are for when I have meat cravings, when I go to a restaurant that doesn't normally do vegetarian cuisine, and ditto cultural events like cookouts.
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> Palaeolithic diets were diverse and prehistoric cooking complex, involving several steps of food preparation. > mounting evidence of plant consumption by both early modern humans and Neanderthals, in addition to meat. Wild nuts and grasses were often combined with pulses, such as lentils, and wild mustard. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/nov/23/oldest-cooke... > Cooking in caves: Palaeolithic carbonised pl…
I don't think he's saying that. He's saying that we ate all of those AND meat, and meat was actually meat, you know, a tried and tested substance on which entire species subsist, while the new thing is a super complex mix of stuff we don't really understand.
I married a vegan, and I eat a lot of vegetarian food. (I also still eat plenty of meat, just not every day.) One extremely frustrating aspect of plant meat is that they tried to aggressively push out traditional veggie burgers on restaurant menus. A familiar refrain I've heard in restaurants in the last few years is "we used to have a nice veggie patty, but they replaced it with the beyond/incredible/whatever patty.…
It’s funny to hear how a person who eats meat thinks that I should be satisfied with a sausage made out of a carrot. I eat enough of veggies in their original form, but they do not make a great burger or sausages. I also really don’t think that meat alternatives are pushing out anything – it’s the consumers that prefer them. I know I am.
I would like to clarify that for me eating healthy was not the reason I became vegan. We need to stop the torture and extermination of sentient beings for the sake of pleasing our tastebuds.
I married a vegan, and I eat a lot of vegetarian food. (I also still eat plenty of meat, just not every day.) One extremely frustrating aspect of plant meat is that they tried to aggressively push out traditional veggie burgers on restaurant menus. A familiar refrain I've heard in restaurants in the last few years is "we used to have a nice veggie patty, but they replaced it with the beyond/incredible/whatever patty.…
I have eaten vegan dishes that were excellent, I am not opposed to them at all. One of the best Tikka Masla's I have ever had was vegan. However I can not stand when they attempt to make be believe X is Y meat, no, it is not and no amount of marketing will get me to believe they taste the same. They do not.
Just like Cauliflower Mash does not taste like potatoes, it tastes like puréed Cauliflower...
We live in Aldi and Action times.
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That US subsidy, $114 per person, if removed and offset by higher prices at the supermarket, would amount to under $10 more a month per person in grocery costs. I can see there being a reduction of consumption at the scale of the industry in the US, but generally speaking I don't think the industry would notice it all that much. The subsidies are almost certainly not the reason that meat is cheaper than beyond burger…
The apparent source, AIER a think tank, claims it's a difference between a $5 and $13 big mac. If true, that would be noticed
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> The thing is, vegetarian food is incredible without needing to taste like meat. I'm not a vegan nor a vegetarian. I just sometimes think I eat too much meat and check out vegetarian restaurants. They all have 100 kinds of fake burgers and little else. There are thousands of good food recipes without meat. Why are you trying to sell me burgers?
Because in the American society, food == burgers. If you don't want to eat meat, you need to replace the meat bit from a burger. In many other cuisines, there are naturally non meat dishes, just look at the Indian cuisine. Heck, even my own country cuisine, Romania, has plenty of meat free dishes that taste very good.
The goal should be to eat HUMANE meat if you want to eat meat but can't for ethical reasons. When I was a kid, my gram grams in Ukraine treated our animals like family members. That cow and hog dinner cooked for them smelled so good I wanted to plant my face in it myself. My grandfather even built a sun deck for the pigs. A sun deck. We wanted them to be HAPPY and PLUMPY, and when it was time to get the household thr…
To a lot of us, it will never be considered humane to kill something that is perfectly healthy for no other reason than that we want to eat something that tastes a certain way.
> When I was a kid, my gram grams in Ukraine treated our animals like family members
Think about this for a minute.
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A classic: https://youtu.be/wOmjnioNulo?t=26 "Ten pounds of grass make a pound of steak. And ten pounds of steak make a pound of tiger. But these have the same number of calories - so you might as well just eat the cow and save yourself a lot of work."
Might as well eat the tiger and save yourself even more work.