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Note: AirDrop is unsafe for broadcasting message anonymously. It will also broadcast your hashed phone number and email[1], which can be reversed by rainbow table. [1]: https://privatedrop.github.io/

True, but invalidated by burner and jailbroken phones which are widespread in China. They can definitely catch somebody with a concerted effort but I'd be surprised if the average Chinese teenager couldnt figure out how to make a burner email

People in China have burner Apple phones? That sounds kind of crazy. Even if jailbroken I doubt they are mitigating for this.

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I agree that it can be annoying if the developer of an app does not adopt the correct behaviours. But in the case of Safari we should not be allowing web developers to hide persistent OS UI elements. The better solution to your screenshot, I think, is to design with safe areas[1] in mind so that the overlap does not occur and persistent OS UI remains accessible. [1] https://webkit.org/blog/7929/designing-websites-for…

But why on earth does it NEED to be persistent? It’s instinctual behavior. Like imagine if a desktop pc had 3 dime sized dots on the bottom of the screen to remind you a mouse has 3 buttons. It’s noise, not signal.

It wasn't instinctual when iOS introduced the swipe up to close apps in 2018?

It's also a clear indication that you can swipe up to go home. If the indicator is invisible, you cannot swipe up. You need to interact with the app to make the indicator appear (eg. tap the screen). I appreciate the visual indicator and that it can be disabled when there is full screen content

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> Show me any fortune 100 company in the world that would do the right thing... Companies don't do anything. People do. The individuals who make up any Fortune 100 company most likely do want to do the right thing individually, but communication at scale is really hard which leads to all kinds of unintended consequences.

> Companies don't do anything. People do. The individuals who make up any Fortune 100 company most likely do want to do the right thing individually, but communication at scale is really hard which leads to all kinds of unintended consequences. Maybe the majority of the worker bees. The people who make decisions have a fiduciary obligation to maximize shareholder profits.

> The people who make decisions have a fiduciary obligation to maximize shareholder profits.

This is a myth. There is an obligation to serve the share holders' "best interests", but that doesn't necessarily mean profitability. It probably doesn't mean maximizing profitability a lot of the time as shareholders are not single dimensional characters. Often shareholders of public companies are just plain old people with a retirement fund, who live regular lives like you and I. The choices made within the business, especially a Fortune 100, are bound to impact them in other ways.

But communication at scale is hard. Shareholders may not always accurately communicate to their nominated trustees what is in their best interest. Profit is an easy one to communicate, but "do the right thing", which likely requires a lot of nuance to understand, is definitely not.

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Looking at it from a users perspective, people constantly trying to airdrop me stuff is not something I want, even though I want to use “everyone” at times. I’ve had this happen in public before and it’s annoying but maybe it’s become so widespread that it’s a UX issue in China?

The fix for your use case is an easy to enable "next hour/ten minutes/whatever" from the control center buttons. Then it can be default "contacts only" and you can turn to everyone with a single press, and it turns itself back off.

you're thinking differently, don't expect any apple job offers.

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> Maybe you shouldn’t fight every battle, but he fights none. All we know is what has been reported. It would seem improbable what a multi trillion dollar company with it's manufacturing base in China wouldn't be dealing and negotiating with the Chinese authorities as part of day to day operations. To say Tim Cook fights no battles seems unlikely. We cannot make that statement because the reality is that we just don'…

If you can point to a positive change that Apple have made, in this regard, under Cook's watch, then your argument has some merit. If you can't then you'll have to rely on the "it would've been worse but for his efforts" but I doubt you're going to provide evidence for that. What we do know is that Apple have repeatedly sided with censorship, I can certainly provide evidence of that.

Apple very publicly refused to unlock the phones of the San Berbardino shooters, and consistently refuses to back door their phones for law enforcement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI%E2%80%93Apple_encryption_d...

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This seems to have been announced a couple of weeks ago, so we don't need to just trust the tweet: https://www.macworld.com/article/1377200/apple-to-limit-aird... Having it open to everyone for only a limited amount of time actually kind of seems like the right thing, but it's hard to come up with a legit explanation for why they rushed that change to China first.

The AirDrop spam has been a headache in China for sometime: https://www.pingwest.com/a/256995

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Hardware killswitches are security theatre, if you can’t trust the software layer to that degree than you are just lost behind saving.

No. You can inspect the hardware. If you can verify that the switch disables the radio, you don't have to worry about software do you? ... unless there is some other way to exfiltrate data, such as: 1. alternative antennae, chipsets? 2. some kind of filtering + buffer + delayed send 3. something else...? Whatever the case, such techniques are not free of cost and increase the chance of exfil detection. So, killswitch…

> hardware. If you can verify that the switch disables the radio, you don't have to worry about software do you?

Until the next time you turn radio on, when it could just send out anything, anywhere if the software stack is untrusted, so we are back at square one.

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But why on earth does it NEED to be persistent? It’s instinctual behavior. Like imagine if a desktop pc had 3 dime sized dots on the bottom of the screen to remind you a mouse has 3 buttons. It’s noise, not signal.

It wasn't instinctual when iOS introduced the swipe up to close apps in 2018? It's also a clear indication that you can swipe up to go home. If the indicator is invisible, you cannot swipe up. You need to interact with the app to make the indicator appear (eg. tap the screen). I appreciate the visual indicator and that it can be disabled when there is full screen content

False. Swiping up in the YouTube app with the bar hidden goes home just fine.

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> Maybe you shouldn’t fight every battle, but he fights none. All we know is what has been reported. It would seem improbable what a multi trillion dollar company with it's manufacturing base in China wouldn't be dealing and negotiating with the Chinese authorities as part of day to day operations. To say Tim Cook fights no battles seems unlikely. We cannot make that statement because the reality is that we just don'…

So basically your counterargument is a variation of the Conspiracy Fallacy. "The good actors are hiding the evidence for their goodness!" (Or perhaps, that was your point!)

I think it's more that Tim Cook, and Apple, are innocent until proven guilty.

They are not 'hiding' anything, which implies they have more to hide.

Apple are a secretive company that does not tend to discuss their internal politics and supplier arrangements.

The internet could argue about this all day long, but my point stands that we just don't know!

But I get your point as well. Maybe I'm feeling generous towards Apple!

I'm not normally a fan of Mr Tim Cook! :-)

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