AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes • Hacker News Board

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by s3p » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 2:32 AM UTC

rurp wrote: post #349

snoot wrote: post #191

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> which is why Apple's cracking down. This is absurd. Apple is doing this because of government pressure, not because of their own desire to crack down.

Apple is literally the group implementing the change, it's accurate to say "Apple is cracking down". You're trying to paint Apple as a helpless victim here, but they didn't get blindsided by CCP tyranny. The company has spent years developing this exact situation and repeatedly choose to do the bidding of the Chinese government. "Just following orders" is a pitiful excuse, and even worse when the orders are coming fr…

What is the alternative? Apple exits the country and we use.. android? Is that a better, more privacy-respecting, government-order-rejecting alternative?

Edit: The alternative is Apple doesn't comply w/ government orders and leaves the country. That is the alternative.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by s3p » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 2:34 AM UTC

kelnos wrote: post #281

snoot wrote: post #229

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Nope. They were taking about Apple cracking down. That’s not the same as being forced to make a software change at the governments demand.

That doesn't make it better, though. Plenty of companies have decided not to do business in China on ethical grounds. Hell, even Google pulled out of China way back when, a company I certainly don't think all that highly of. Yes, not doing business in China means less revenue, and unhappy shareholders. This is why capitalism sucks: it more or less requires companies do unethical things, when not doing those things me…

IMO it does. I would rather have a generally good product with concessions as opposed to no product at all. If apple, google, everyone exits out of protest, what is left? Chinese-developed tech that is 100,000% susceptible to the same government orders. At least with apple they know what they're getting.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by smoldesu » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 2:35 AM UTC

khazhoux wrote: post #535

smoldesu wrote: post #503

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Just a coincidence that this gets rolled out 9 years after Airdrop debuted.

That's literally the definition of coincidence: unrelated things happening at the same time.

Now define irony!

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by smoldesu » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 2:37 AM UTC

khazhoux wrote: post #532

throwaway829 wrote: post #398

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If that were true, Apple would just add limiting Airdrop to 10 minutes as an additional default option. Removing Always on airdrop was done because it's the only form of community communications that doesn't go through the Censors.

Apple changes features and removes configurations ("simplifies") all the time. They have a strong bias towards not adding options.

Good defaults and good options are not mutually exclusive.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by kennywinker » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 2:43 AM UTC

mardifoufs wrote: post #569

kennywinker wrote: post #296

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>you can't claim the paradox of tolerance while re-instating the treasonous former president's account. This is just whataboutism.

Not really. Whataboutism is challenging a challenge with an unrelated challenge. Twitter banning far left accounts, while bringing back far right accounts, all while claiming to be a place for free speech? These are all one topic - especially when considering the paradox of tolerance. If you pick one intolerant group to tolerate, you’re just kingmaking them as the intolerant group that will eventually take over the space.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by eli » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 2:43 AM UTC

concordDance wrote: post #601

stcredzero wrote: post #431

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it's hard to come up with an explanation other than bowing to censorship If one believes Elon Musk's view of the Twitter situation with the app store, Apple seems to be for more censorship!

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It’s safe to ignore him indefinitely

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by gowings97 » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 2:50 AM UTC

Spartan-S63 wrote: post #591

gowings97 wrote: post #315

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"Apple is still definitely slowing down Macs with every single little release." This was true for Intel Macs 2014-2020. I bought a 14' M1 Macbook Pro with 32GB of memory / 1TB storage and it absolutely flies. Best machine I've owned in almost a decade (2014 15' MBP).

I think it was true of Intel Macs largely from their underpowered GPUs. I remember Yosemite being rough on a late 2013 MacBook Pro because the Intel iGPU was awful. Likewise going to Big Sur on a late 2019 MacBook Pro when not plugged into power (and thus not using the dGPU).

Really looking forward to a M series chip built on N3E with dedicated raytracing cores (probably the AR/VR headset, followed shortly thereafter by the Macbook Pro line)

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by krick » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 2:50 AM UTC

jsnell wrote: post #8

This seems to have been announced a couple of weeks ago, so we don't need to just trust the tweet: https://www.macworld.com/article/1377200/apple-to-limit-aird... Having it open to everyone for only a limited amount of time actually kind of seems like the right thing, but it's hard to come up with a legit explanation for why they rushed that change to China first.

Why does it seem "the right thing"? I mean, it's pretty stupid to actually keep it open for everyone forever, but if I want that (and I don't know why it was even an option, but I assume somebody wants that) — that's my business, it doesn't hurt anyone. Also, limiting it to 10 minutes doesn't help, since I just can keep turning it on and on it seems.

Adding one more option could make some sense, but it's weird anyways. Why arbitrary 10 minutes? How turning it for 10 minutes in a crowded place is better than turning it on for an hour? It's silly.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by LinkLink » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 2:51 AM UTC

jinseokim wrote: post #488

concinds wrote: post #464

For context: AirDrop was one of the only ways protesters had to communicate en-masse. Signal is unsafe for Chinese protesters, since it requires SMS verification upon signup and is therefore linked to your identity.[0] Mesh networks are the only real solution there, and AirDrop is about the only mainstream one. AirDrop has been used by Asian protesters for years.[1] I highly recomment you read the full China Digital…

Note: AirDrop is unsafe for broadcasting message anonymously. It will also broadcast your hashed phone number and email[1], which can be reversed by rainbow table. [1]: https://privatedrop.github.io/

True, but invalidated by burner and jailbroken phones which are widespread in China. They can definitely catch somebody with a concerted effort but I'd be surprised if the average Chinese teenager couldnt figure out how to make a burner email

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by mensetmanusman » Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 2:51 AM UTC

travisgriggs wrote: post #145

I'm a little confused by the "Apple's doing bad here" sentiment. The easier to implement, and definitely more effective solution would have been to just disable the Everyone feature completely. Just remove it from the menu. This would have been something like action.isEnabled = self.isInChina Instead, they went through the effort to actually make it still there, but time bombed. They had to add a timeout function, an…

No, that’s a silly solution because airdrop everyone is super useful.