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Post by Rebelgecko »

whimsicalism wrote: post #553
int_19h wrote: post #547

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That would be because IRA remains the sole government of Afghanistan recognized by relevant agencies such as UN. Which companies generally defer to when they came, because it cuts down on a lot of individual political decisions they'd have to make otherwise. Yandex is an interesting showcase of how bad this can get - they literally dropped country borders from their maps last year "for better user experience". And I…

> That would be because IRA remains the sole government of Afghanistan recognized by relevant agencies such as UN. Which companies generally defer to when they came, because it cuts down on a lot of individual political decisions they'd have to make otherwise. How does that standard apply to Taiwan?

In mainland China they don't support the Taiwanese flag emoji, presumably because that's the only country that would care or want to censor it.

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dkokelley wrote: post #422

The power dynamic between China and Apple doesn't get enough attention. Apple needs China, but China doesn't need Apple. There are few if any places capable of manufacturing the amount of products China does for Apple, especially at the price. China is also an enormous market to Apple. I don't agree with the treatment of protestors or the use of technology to surveil its citizens, but the bottom line is that in China…

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Post by xpe »

jansan wrote: post #159
exabrial wrote: post #58

* Apple is not a green company * Apple is not a free speech advocate * Apple builds their products with unethical labor

Apple is about money, nothing else. Look at their quarterly reports, they are not a byproduct of a higher ethics or anything

Nothing else? The profit motive ("money") drives a _lot_, but does not explain everything. Different companies make different trade-offs; there are various ways to optimize profit for different audiences with different risk profiles.

My point? Don't oversimplify. Few (any?) people here are claiming that ethics are the key driver. We know the PR and ads are a veneer. But there is no need to exaggerate.

It is clear that in addition to making money, Apple wants to project a certain brand and ethos, not to mention a penchant for big moves. At times, they are willing to risk some profit in order to invest in, say, a new processor technology.

WRT "explanation" / ie interpreting the why behind actions ... Not all large companies make those kind of investments or take these kind of risks. Saying "money" is the only driver fails to account for much of Apple's storied history.

Not to mention prediction... Saying that the profit motive is the best or only way to explain Apple (and many other companies) defies multivariate statistics and won't serve well to predict the future.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by kube-system »

fsflover wrote: post #486
kube-system wrote: post #430

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The operating system is not the missing part of the puzzle. There are plenty of FOSS operating systems already. The missing part of the puzzle is that phones are much more than an OS. To get a phone , you need an SOC, baseband, drivers, regulatory approval, manufacturing, etc. Those are the missing parts. I think it's a pretty futile effort to make a completely open phone. Even the richest companies on the planet out…

> I think it's a pretty futile effort to make a completely open phone. No, it's not: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 .

The Librem 5 is not completely open -- neither the hardware nor software. https://puri.sm/faq/

The Librem 5 is the best effort to this date, but the wifi, bluetooth, and baseband software are proprietary, as well as much of the silicon, and part of the boot chain.

There simply aren't any open source options that exist for these components, and due to regulatory constraints, it's unlikely that an open source baseband will exist any time soon.

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Post by Rebelgecko »

zerocrates wrote: post #435
throw7 wrote: post #426

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Truth. And it's not just apple, on android we (U.S.) get a "water gun" for gun and no emoji shows up when you search for rifle.

The gun emoji became a toy on all major platforms everywhere several years ago. This is surely related to the political climate but I believe the entities involved applied that change worldwide.

It was a unilateral Apple decision. Other platforms were forced to follow them over the next few years to avoid situations like kids texting each other "Can't want for our class trip to the water park tomorrow "

Apple made that change around the same time as the Rio Olympics. In the leadup to the Olympics, there was a push to create an emoji for every event. Unicode 9 added emojis for handball, wrestling, water polo, fencing, etc.

However the almost comprehensive set still had some gaps, because Apple veto'd the marksmanship/air rifle and pentathlon emojis... but not in time to prevent the creation of the corresponding unicode glyphs

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Post by mensetmanusman »

expensive_news wrote: post #321
wonnage wrote: post #172

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I legitimately don't understand how this has been spun into some sort of pro-censorship move. Leaving your phone open to getting AirDrop-ed by anyone in the vicinity just seems like a terrible idea in general, but especially in China. Apple is helping the authoritarian dictatorship by checks notes not having your phone advertise to everyone nearby that it can receive files from anyone? The ability for dissidents to a…

I agree with all of your points. To me this seems like correcting an oversight in Apple’s original implementation vs Apple taking away a ‘feature’. I’ve gotten AirDrop spam here in America and welcome this change.

Removing ‘always everyone’ as an option only in China means you are probably wrong.

They can easily add a ‘temporary everyone’ button for people that want to use that.

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Post by zaroth »

avereveard wrote: post #165
zaroth wrote: post #85

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This isn’t an illuminating way to discuss the topic. Take a break and come back ready to engage and educate, or please rage elsewhere?

Who died to make you king?

Absolutely no one. Just a suggestion really, I have zero authority here. Tried to indicate that with the question mark since emojis are stripped.

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Post by schoen »

ithkuil wrote: post #560
mmmpop wrote: post #460

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Not everybody knows everything. Would you be so kind to share what's up with the Iranian flag? It's seems interesting. I happen to not know much about it and I love when people bring up some interesting curiosities here (sometimes unfortunately obscured by sarcasm or other convolutions)

The U.S. Soccer Federation tweeted about Iran, intentionally using a pre-Islamic-Revolution version of the country's flag. (Or, one might imagine, what it hoped will be the post-Islamic-Revolution version.)

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Post by mrep »

rsj_hn wrote: post #504
lordofgibbons wrote: post #496

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China didn't become an authoritarian police state AFTER Apple went in there with their manufacturing. They absolutely knew about CCP behavior, but they went there anyway in order to save money. So, they can't really play the helpless multi-hundred-billion-dollar-corporation victim card.

Apple don't move to China to save money, they moved to China in order to meet high demand. There was simply nowhere else that could produce the volume. And technically, Foxconn is a Taiwanese company, but that's not an important detail. Point is, only Chinese/Taiwanese contract manufacturers could give Apple the volume they needed. I really wish you could talk to some more manufacturing types -- there are many on thi…

> Apple don't move to China to save money, they moved to China in order to meet high demand. There was simply nowhere else that could produce the volume.

I'm calling BS. Money is based on volume (supply) and demand. China does mainly assembly which makes up a paltry 4% of costs [0] and assembly is low skill labor. With a 25% profit margin, there's no way they couldn't spend/invest in other countries to build up assembly capacity.

[0]: https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/apple-iphone-7-and-...

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Post by wonnage »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #557
wonnage wrote: post #548

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The usage in HK that everyone keeps citing was as a way to spam incoming Mainland tourists' phones with protest flyers. Like okay, you might agree with the content in this case, but it can (and has) easily be dick pics instead. By your logic Apple's default setting of "contacts only" AirDrop visibility is also a nefarious way to prevent protest literature from being distributed

> The usage in HK that everyone keeps citing was as a way to spam incoming Mainland tourists' phones with protest flyers. Like okay, you might agree with the content in this case, but it can (and has) easily be dick pics instead. It's entirely possible it's misleading, but the tweet in this post pretty heavily implies it was from protester to protester, you're the one who brought up the "spamming tourists" thing. Als…

https://qz.com/1660460/hong-kong-protesters-use-airdrop-to-b...
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