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Post by LeonB »

firecall wrote: post #509
latexr wrote: post #445

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Remember how Tim Cook’s Apple handled HKmap.live¹, Telegram², and the Navalny app³. Maybe you shouldn’t fight every battle, but he fights none. The richest company in the world has at the helm a person who quotes Martin Luther King Jr on the importance of doing something for others⁴ yet he always kowtows to authoritarian regimes. He’s in a stronger position than most people in the world to make a stand but he never d…

> Maybe you shouldn’t fight every battle, but he fights none. All we know is what has been reported. It would seem improbable what a multi trillion dollar company with it's manufacturing base in China wouldn't be dealing and negotiating with the Chinese authorities as part of day to day operations. To say Tim Cook fights no battles seems unlikely. We cannot make that statement because the reality is that we just don'…

Perhaps he dresses up as Batman and fights crime at night, I mean, who can say?

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Post by selsta »

ibz wrote: post #189
skrowl wrote: post #154

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Do you personally know anyone who has been using the same iPhone for 8 years? I find that claim dubious.

You can't even run WhatsApp on a 6S, which is just 7 years old. So I doubt.

WhatsApp runs on devices with iOS 12 or newer, that means even an iPhone 6 can still run it.

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Post by elicash »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #332
NaturalPhallacy wrote: post #130

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> Speaking of twitter, it's weird Musk hasn't commented yet on the protests in China. Tales about what people haven't done are pure propaganda. I first noticed this under trump. News outlets constantly decried him for things he didn't do. That isn't news. News is fundamentally what did happen. Everything else is propaganda. It's a particularly insidious way to malign someone that seems rational, but with absolutely n…

It depends on how many related topics they are talking about and usually talk about. And "weird" is a weak implication.

It's both self-interested and hypocritical, in my view.

"Weird" was a reflection of the sarcasm of the comment.

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Post by shagie »

fasthands9 wrote: post #510
shagie wrote: post #484

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Most developers aren't paying 30%. From a bit ago: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/11/apple-announces-app-s... > The new App Store Small Business Program will benefit the vast majority of developers who sell digital goods and services on the store, providing them with a reduced commission on paid apps and in-app purchases. Developers can qualify for the program and a reduced, 15 percent commission if they earned…

Fair - although all of my app store purchases are with large companies so im essentially still paying 40% more than what the company is receiving directly. I'm not a developer, just a consumer. It is also my understanding the cut they insist on taking on e-books and audio and movies etc. makes it impossible to sell those at all in the app. I guess that strictly makes the in-app experiences on the iPhone more secure,…

The "in the app" part is key when referring to movies and books and the like - and its for credits in the app.

With Audible, I have a subscription and get credits and can use those credits in the app... but I can't use real money to buy a book in the Audible app. Similar with Kindle.

The tangent to that is that Apple is managing it. When my nephew, as a very young child, bought in app purchases that was able to be refunded through a single point of contact - Apple and they did it (I normally am the only user of my iPhone and thus have rather permissive permissions on device).

I am not sure that Outfit7 (makers of Talking Tom) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outfit7 note the "Acquisition and leadership change" section and consider the difficulties involved with international charge backs) would have been amenable to refunding the purchases if they were the payment processor instead.

As it was, it was a notification of credit card activity on another iPhone, looking over at it, and then going through https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204084

So for me, the question is "is being able to manage my subscriptions through Apple worth it?" And for me, the answer is "yes." My subscriptions to various news sites are managed through Apple so that I can cancel them easily (compare the infernal nightmare of canceling WSJ subscription otherwise - https://darkpatternstipline.org/sightings/difficulty-in-wsj-... ).

For the sites with a subscription, they likely wouldn't have gotten it if I had to purchase it through them instead at all. 70% (now 85%) is much better than 0%. Similarly, the ease and security knowing the Apple is the only one touching my credit card when doing an in app purchase.

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Post by dymk »

blamazon wrote: post #240
huslage wrote: post #53

In what way does this censor anyone? Censorship would be Apple disabling Airdrop altogether, not coming up with some compromise so that its users could still do their work.

Imagine you want to invite a lot of people you don't know, to a protest. This is generally really difficult to do in China without being spotted for re-education. In contrast, Airdrop was previously a good way to do this discreetly. Now it's useless. That is censorship.

Doesn’t seem useless, seems like a good way to make sure people aren’t broadcasting PII by default if they leave “everybody” on.

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Post by khazhoux »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #265
lopkeny12ko wrote: post #233

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When you work on software available globally, it's very normal to deploy or roll out features region-by-region. This seems par for the course.

The article I linked says "The setting was reportedly added after protesters in the country used AirDrop to spread anti-government material." Most other articles also mention this. I'm not unconvinced this had nothing to do with the feature. I'm just pointing out that this was already in the works. This was not a fast reaction to the current protests. I don't think this is good. But Apple didn't just roll this out at…

> The setting was reportedly added after protesters in the country used AirDrop to spread anti-government material

"Event A happened after Event B", is the only thing we can infer from this.

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Post by blamazon »

dymk wrote: post #525
blamazon wrote: post #240

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Imagine you want to invite a lot of people you don't know, to a protest. This is generally really difficult to do in China without being spotted for re-education. In contrast, Airdrop was previously a good way to do this discreetly. Now it's useless. That is censorship.

Doesn’t seem useless, seems like a good way to make sure people aren’t broadcasting PII by default if they leave “everybody” on.

If it's an unalloyed good, why implement only in China right after protests arranged by airdrop?

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Post by selsta »

Symbiote wrote: post #124
api wrote: post #41

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Is there anyone who isn't dependent on Chinese labor or the Chinese market? How are the Android vendors in this respect? From what I can see the entire world is completely addicted to China as a cheap source of medium to high skill labor and as a place where manufacturing can be done with little environmental regulation.

Samsung Galaxy S23 -- Vietnam, South Korea Possibly some Google Pixel 7 -- Vietnam ASUS -- Taiwan Sony -- Japan (Sometimes it's only specific models.) https://notochina.org/best-cell-phones-not-made-in-china/ https://chinanever.com/categories/phones-not-made-in-china

Pixel 7 is made in China according to this tweet: https://twitter.com/vvaiibhav/status/1580454957580681216

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by blamazon »

hindsightbias wrote: post #479
blamazon wrote: post #260

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Okay. Let's make it more concrete. Imagine theres a bus full of people and you want to invite them to a protest, discreetly. Before state: some of them have airdrop set to open always and you can just airdrop to them. Move on to the next bus. New state: some of them may have had airdrop set to open always, but it timed out. You cannot airdrop it to them. Protest quashed. I'm still telling the same story but perhaps t…

So presuming airdrops are logged, a trivial mechanism for implicating a lot of people in a crime against the state is now more complicated.

You're saying the recipients of anti-CCP information would be implicated? I don't love this take because I think it's the other way around - it's removing common plausible deniability of "oh, that image? Some hoodlum airdropped that to me without my consent."

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Post by implements »

sn_master wrote: post #451
bell-cot wrote: post #408

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Have you looked at how much stuff there is under Settings on a recent version of iOS? Admittedly it's not the Windows Registry, but...

> Windows Registry That's a term I haven't heard in years. I wonder if anyone still remembers the literal thousands of settings that were possible to change and all the "tweaking" programs that were made for it.

Google gpedit.msc if you really want your mind blown.
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