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Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by yamtaddle »

rchaud wrote: post #213

Time for a new operating system (if we didn't already hit that mark with the 2013 NSA leaks). Apple, Google, Samsung, Huawei: they all exist at the pleasure of the state. Please ignore their glitzy PR-laden presentations about protecting people's privacy and upholding human rights. They will sell you out in a second if it's convenient. On the mobile side of things, we need, at the barest minimum: - a web based OS wit…

> a web based OS

I consider decent battery life and a low-latency interface table stakes for a mobile OS. I'd regard the floor for this as Android, though I'm only setting it that low to avoid charges of being contrary (I'm not happy with how much iOS has slipped on this, even, especially latency/responsiveness). It would be billionaire-mintingly novel if a team managed to clear that bar with webtech.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by mym1990 »

miguelazo wrote: post #81

How does this actually limit the dissemination of information? You have 10 minutes, and then can reinitiate? Seems like a reasonable security precaution.

I am wondering if there is pattern recognition that the Chinese government can access where you can see people constantly toggling AirDrop and identify them for prosecution.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

zackees wrote: post #403
anon400232 wrote: post #397

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bowing to censorship? Bowing isn't necessarily done happily. Or maybe more ideas are also in play? Perhaps recognizing the existing power dynamics? Perhaps playing the game over a longer time frame? Not all ethicists recommend "dying on your sword" so to speak. Sometimes it is useful to maintain influence and fight another day. These things are far from simple. If you want Apple to push back on censorship in China, l…

Hopefully, they (the CCP) will collapse.

Hmm, I see this sentiment often, but I am not entirely certain people go through it beyond the initial 'feels good' analysis. If there is one thing that US population probably should be aware of, it is that succeeding regime will not automatically be to one's advantage ( devil known kinda deal ). Say what you want about old age, but it does force you to recognize certain level of stability as desirable.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by shagie »

fasthands9 wrote: post #105
yamtaddle wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. For i-devices, yeah, true. > You can only pay for software on their own store. As nice as exposing the App store to more market effects might be, the app store monopoly enables them to force other companies to be less shitty on the platform (or else abandon it—but it's lucrative, so most don't), so i…

I'm pretty torn on all this. Obviously the 30% is exorbitant. But the positive effects from it are very hard to see once you are used to everything working.

Most developers aren't paying 30%.

From a bit ago: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/11/apple-announces-app-s...

> The new App Store Small Business Program will benefit the vast majority of developers who sell digital goods and services on the store, providing them with a reduced commission on paid apps and in-app purchases. Developers can qualify for the program and a reduced, 15 percent commission if they earned up to $1 million in proceeds during the previous calendar year.

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If you are making more than $1M, then its 30%. If you are making less than $1M, its 15%.

For subscriptions...

https://appleinsider.com/articles/16/06/08/apple-announces-i...

> Although the company's current 30 percent revenue cut will remain in most cases, once a customer maintains a subscription for over a year, that cut fall to 15 percent, giving developers a larger share of revenue for long-term subscribers, Schiller told The Verge. Subscriptions are also opening up to all kinds of apps, including games, instead of just categories like music services and magazines.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by sneak »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #396
rchaud wrote: post #213

Time for a new operating system (if we didn't already hit that mark with the 2013 NSA leaks). Apple, Google, Samsung, Huawei: they all exist at the pleasure of the state. Please ignore their glitzy PR-laden presentations about protecting people's privacy and upholding human rights. They will sell you out in a second if it's convenient. On the mobile side of things, we need, at the barest minimum: - a web based OS wit…

At least Google and Samsung don't give in to dictatorships. Yes, hypothetically the US and South Korea hold some power over them... However Google has stood up to Russia, China and others. Unlike Apple...

If Apple breaks Chinese law in any big or meaningful way... there is no iPhone 15. Full stop. Apple is dead in the water without their CCP-jurisdiction manufacturing which produces approximately 100% of their products (and all of their biggest moneymakers).

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by fsflover »

kube-system wrote: post #430
rchaud wrote: post #213

Time for a new operating system (if we didn't already hit that mark with the 2013 NSA leaks). Apple, Google, Samsung, Huawei: they all exist at the pleasure of the state. Please ignore their glitzy PR-laden presentations about protecting people's privacy and upholding human rights. They will sell you out in a second if it's convenient. On the mobile side of things, we need, at the barest minimum: - a web based OS wit…

The operating system is not the missing part of the puzzle. There are plenty of FOSS operating systems already. The missing part of the puzzle is that phones are much more than an OS. To get a phone , you need an SOC, baseband, drivers, regulatory approval, manufacturing, etc. Those are the missing parts. I think it's a pretty futile effort to make a completely open phone. Even the richest companies on the planet out…

> I think it's a pretty futile effort to make a completely open phone.

No, it's not: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5.

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Post by ipaddr »

zerocrates wrote: post #435
throw7 wrote: post #426

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Truth. And it's not just apple, on android we (U.S.) get a "water gun" for gun and no emoji shows up when you search for rifle.

The gun emoji became a toy on all major platforms everywhere several years ago. This is surely related to the political climate but I believe the entities involved applied that change worldwide.

I would love to learn more about backroom emoji politics. It sounds foolish on the surface but emojis have a big reach.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by jinseokim »

concinds wrote: post #464

For context: AirDrop was one of the only ways protesters had to communicate en-masse. Signal is unsafe for Chinese protesters, since it requires SMS verification upon signup and is therefore linked to your identity.[0] Mesh networks are the only real solution there, and AirDrop is about the only mainstream one. AirDrop has been used by Asian protesters for years.[1] I highly recomment you read the full China Digital…

Note: AirDrop is unsafe for broadcasting message anonymously. It will also broadcast your hashed phone number and email[1], which can be reversed by rainbow table.

[1]: https://privatedrop.github.io/

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by yamtaddle »

joosters wrote: post #438
lovvtide wrote: post #412

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I would add: - The ability to send push notifications without replying on GCM/APN - Support for mesh networking (multiple low power peer connections) - Convenient "lockdown" mode that encrypts your phone's contents for international travel - Included hardware wallet/keystore for signing all data that you upload to social media

Is it even possible to do push notifications without relying on a centralized system (Google, Apple, or whoever)? Sounds like a very difficult problem to solve while preventing privacy leaks, spamming, DOS attacks and still being reliable and globally available. Who would pay for the infrastructure? (Please, no 'blockchain will solve this' answers!)

Doing it without killing battery life is... challenging. There are good non-user-hostile reasons it's centralized. Google was a bit wild-west about it for a while and lots of Android apps used custom push services, and the results weren't great.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by Mikeb85 »

sneak wrote: post #485
Mikeb85 wrote: post #396

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least Google and Samsung don't give in to dictatorships. Yes, hypothetically the US and South Korea hold some power over them... However Google has stood up to Russia, China and others. Unlike Apple...

If Apple breaks Chinese law in any big or meaningful way... there is no iPhone 15 . Full stop. Apple is dead in the water without their CCP-jurisdiction manufacturing which produces approximately 100% of their products (and all of their biggest moneymakers).

And they chose to be reliant on a dictatorship... The reasons don't matter, the fact is Apple cooperates with whatever the CCP demands.

What happens when China invades Taiwan? Will they aid our enemy?

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