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Do you personally know anyone who has been using the same iPhone for 8 years? I find that claim dubious.

My grandmother still uses an iPad 2nd gen. Mainly because she's 97 and has dementia, and we taught her how to use facetime a decade ago, and it's all she knows how to do on it. It works for her needs, although the battery is completely shot so remains plugged in and we've since fixed it to the wall in front of her living room chair so it doesn't go missing.

Not quite as old but my Mum's still using an iPhone 5s from around 2014 which she had from new. She's not into apps so again, works fine for her as she doesn't need to be able to install anything. Thankfully homekit is still working on this and she's able to use it to tell siri to open the garage when she gets home.

Obviously these are very much edge cases, you can't find many apps in the app store still working on these older models.

I myself only upgraded from an iPhone 7 this September when the 14 came out. I'd had the battery replaced by Apple last year as it was a free recall thing which did massively improve its performance but it did eventually become too much of a pain in the arse to keep using.

I've got an old iPhone 5 which I keep for use as an occasional wifi hotspot too.

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"like not allowing ANY browser besides Safari" are you saying this is potentially an issue? Because I have Chrome and Firefox installed on my iPhone and MacBook Air. I also have DuckDuckGo's browser on my iPhone.

What the parent means to say, is not allowing any browser engine other than WebKit. Chrome, Firefox, Brave, etc, are just wrapping WebKit. The big issue, as I understand it, is JIT. You can run any browser engine you like on iOS, but only WebKit (its JavaScriptCore component) is allowed to JIT JavaScript. Without JIT, the JavaScript performance will be bad; and considering the contemporary JavaScript-heavy nature of…

> The big issue, as I understand it, is JIT. You can run any browser engine you like on iOS, but only WebKit (its JavaScriptCore component) is allowed to JIT JavaScript. Without JIT, the JavaScript performance will be bad; and considering the contemporary JavaScript-heavy nature of the web, that makes any alternative browser engine a non-starter.

IDK how it is now, but Apple used not to allow e.g. alternative Javascript engines in apps—you had to use Webkit's.

Having developed an app-building engine for Android in the days when some vendors shipped different engines to supply webview functionality (is that a thing? I actually don't know if they ever stopped) I can say I'm extremely in favor of this part of their policy. God that was a pain in the ass.

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Do you personally know anyone who has been using the same iPhone for 8 years? I find that claim dubious.

You can't even run WhatsApp on a 6S, which is just 7 years old. So I doubt.

I don’t think that’s right - my daughter does and she has a 6s

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I don’t ever want to hear again how Apple is some champion of privacy and ethics. I’ve lost count of how many scandals have come out of their relationship with China from the suicide nets to the repeated investigations showing their supply chain was riddled with slave labor that they would later campaign against protections that would prevent it. Now this. They are fucked as a company, I can’t get out of their ecosys…

Their ethics are terrible. You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. You can only pay for software on their own store. Complete bullshit, and it makes me sad that so many here on HN and elsehwere, tech people who learned to program because their 8088 was completely open and free to let you actually create things and learn about computing, so m…

> You can only pay for software on their own store.

I would love to see Apple adopt a more open ecosystem, and I could see it happening in the net 5-10 years.

But, nobody cares about this aside from the tech community. The average smartphone user is fine with the status quo.

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That’s an overly reductive to prove a biased point. Typical users do not have the same motivations as programmers. The market for connected devices does not have to conform to your expectations. It’s really exhausting pointing out how your argument would effectively force others to produce what satisfies your sensibilities and to protect what you feel is sacrosanct. Programming is “just math”. I don’t need an 8088 to…

> Typical users do not have the same motivations as programmers. This is actually very untrue in my experience. I can't tell you how many "normal users" ask me whether there is an open source equivalent they can use so they don't have to pay for X, for example, and many have shown interest in doing what they can to optimize their setup and/or reduce their financial burden by getting smarter about how things are set u…

I don’t think users intrinsically care about open source, what they want is free. If it’s closed source then that’s probably ok too.

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> iPhones still last for at least twice as long. I have a shitty android smartphone. It costs 14 times less than iphone.

It’s also shitty the entire time you use it. Let’s compare apples with apples (or replace the fruit, but you know what I mean)

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are people really surprised the world biggest corporation has to cave to the worlds second largest economy? What do people expect really? Do people even understand the kind of incentives at play here? What does this have to do with the quality of their products? Apple is an artificial entity, a corporation and it's only loyalty by design is with the wallets of it's shareholders. What's surprising about this?

The difference is Apple insists on removing most of the user's control over their device, which makes it an ideal target for authoritarian regimes. Android gives you more control and more options.

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I'm pretty sure this is not true. They slow down the device when battery can't provide enough current to sustain unthrottled CPU. Its happening in the latest iOS. It happened with my 5 year phone few months ago which suddenly turned off. I don't even feel this throttling but it doesn't turn off anymore. On an unrelated note, my Google Pixel 7 just hanged up. It didn't happen to me since windows XP I think. It's the w…

It's 100% true, beyond a shadow of a doubt. Not only did it go to court, Apple admitted doing it and paid over $100M in damages. https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936268845/apple-agrees-to-pay...

Apple admitted slowing down old phones. They DID NOT admit that the reason they did so was to force people to upgrade sooner. That is something you made up.

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I am not intimately familiar with the Apple ecosystem. This still reads like all or nothing. All as in "App Store and identified developers", or user can turn off "System Integrity Protection" completely. Turning off SIP eliminates any protection. Is that what it means to disable SIP?

If you want run an unsigned installer you just right click in Finder and select 'Open' instead of double clicking. I'm not aware of any Mac user among my friends who isn't aware of this. Most OSS installers but even many commerical ones aren't code signed because devs don't want to pay the Apple tax.

> I'm not aware of any Mac user among my friends who isn't aware of this.

I don't think any of my non-tech friends would know this.

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