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Post by ohbtvz »

yamtaddle wrote: post #196
ASalazarMX wrote: post #89

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That also enables unreasonable monopolistic behavior, like not allowing ANY browser besides Safari. Why not allow alternative browser engines that follow strict privacy practices? What about native ad blockers? Why not encourage privacy-friendly apps that don't collect data by lowering/waiving their fees?

> Why not allow alternative browser engines that follow strict privacy practices? A few reasons for me, personally: 1) I like the consistency of all web pages being rendered by the same engine and having access to similar capabilities, no matter if it's a web-view inside an app, or in a browser. 2) Safari's a pretty great default for mobile devices, so I don't feel like I'm losing out by being "stuck" with it. 3) Fro…

> 1) I like the consistency of all web pages being rendered by the same engine and having access to similar capabilities, no matter if it's a web-view inside an app, or in a browser.

Then use Safari and don't install another browser. Why should other people be prevented from installing other browsers based on your preferences?

> 2) Safari's a pretty great default for mobile devices, so I don't feel like I'm losing out by being "stuck" with it.

Then use Safari and don't install another browser. Why should other people be prevented from installing other browsers based on your preferences?

> 4) Conveniently for me, I also happen to have no interest in having other browser engines on my phone or tablets, since this one's pretty good, and in some ways best-available, anyway.

Then use Safari and don't install another browser. Why should other people be prevented from installing other browsers based on your preferences?

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #118
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #97

We heard about this over 2 weeks ago https://www.macrumors.com/2022/11/10/airdrop-10-minute-limit... This is not in response to this particular protest. iOS16 just dropped, so the timing was coincidental I guess.

If you don’t believe this is in response to protest then how do you explain it being rushed out ONLY IN CHINA?

I said "This is not in response to this particular protest."

This already existed. They did not see the current protest and then suddenly released it.

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Post by snoot »

Barrin92 wrote: post #210
snoot wrote: post #142

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> tech people who learned to program because their 8088 was completely open and free to let you actually create things and learn about computing, so many of you will defend this terrible situation. There is nothing terrible about Apple making devices my 80+ year old mother can safely and easily use. I have a Mac, and I also have Linux machines. Nothing is stopping people learning about computers. Why would anyone spe…

>There is nothing terrible about Apple making devices my 80+ year old mother can safely and easily use. in contrast to what other phone? Was your 80+ year old mother sideloading bootleg apks on her android after turning on developer mode? This is the reverse version of "but think of the children" except it doesn't even make any sense. In every one of these threads there's a mysterious influx of senile parents who app…

This isn’t in contrast to Android. That’s just a matter of usability.

It’s in contrast to the openness of the platform people seem to be demanding from Apple. Current Android is obviously not open enough for them, so it’s not a valid as a point of comparison.

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

kennywinker wrote: post #19
elicash wrote: post #7

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Speaking of twitter, it's weird Musk hasn't commented yet on the protests in China. Looking forward to him taking on censorship and standing for free speech around the globe, particularly in China.

https://twitter.com/TinaDesireeBerg/status/15955262149359042... To summarize: Elon Musk: "No far left accounts have been banned from twitter" Commenter: "False, here are four examples" Elon Musk: Suspends commenters account. Champion of free speech indeed. Here is same info summarized in newsweek, since we've all learned how trustworthy twitter screenshots are in recent weeks https://www.newsweek.com/activists-accuse…

It's a private platform- Also, have you ever heard of the paradox of tolerance? You can't blame him for taking a stand against these extremists...

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Post by westhom »

klodolph wrote: post #207
gambiting wrote: post #168

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>>There is nothing terrible about Apple making devices my 80+ year old mother can safely and easily use. I just don't understand this argument. Never did and I don't think I ever will. If apple allowed you to install custom apps, it would change NOTHING for your 80+ year old mother. Literally nothing. Her device would still be just as safe and secure as ever before.

Apple lets you install custom apps on Macs, it’s just iOS devices where it’s a pain. On iOS devices, you have to use a developer account to sideload the app and it only works for a short time, IIRC. I’m fuzzy on the details because the places where I’ve worked, it mostly just worked although the experience was way, way better on Android. At one point I was on a team that ran a system for deploying apps for sideloadin…

I believe the right click method for opening an unsigned app no longer works as of MacOS Ventura. It appears to work on your own computer but once someone downloads it and tries to run on a new computer, you can’t get around it through regular UI, I think.

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Post by andreysolsty »

Maximus9000 wrote: post #66
jsnell wrote: post #8

This seems to have been announced a couple of weeks ago, so we don't need to just trust the tweet: https://www.macworld.com/article/1377200/apple-to-limit-aird... Having it open to everyone for only a limited amount of time actually kind of seems like the right thing, but it's hard to come up with a legit explanation for why they rushed that change to China first.

That's interesting that this was rolled out a few weeks ago, however the article also says: > Apple won’t admit why this change is being made in China, but the peer-to-peer nature of AirDrop has made it popular for spreading anti-government protest material, and hopping into your settings every 10 minutes to re-enable the ability to receive AirDrop from strangers makes it a lot less useful for that.

Looking at it from a users perspective, people constantly trying to airdrop me stuff is not something I want, even though I want to use “everyone” at times. I’ve had this happen in public before and it’s annoying but maybe it’s become so widespread that it’s a UX issue in China?

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Post by jrajav »

rchaud wrote: post #213

Time for a new operating system (if we didn't already hit that mark with the 2013 NSA leaks). Apple, Google, Samsung, Huawei: they all exist at the pleasure of the state. Please ignore their glitzy PR-laden presentations about protecting people's privacy and upholding human rights. They will sell you out in a second if it's convenient. On the mobile side of things, we need, at the barest minimum: - a web based OS wit…

Does this not all exist already in the form of Pinephone and Firefox OS?

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Post by snoot »

johnbellone wrote: post #218
snoot wrote: post #191

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> which is why Apple's cracking down. This is absurd. Apple is doing this because of government pressure, not because of their own desire to crack down.

You're both saying the same thing.

Nope. They were taking about Apple cracking down. That’s not the same as being forced to make a software change at the governments demand.

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Post by sam0x17 »

compiskey wrote: post #216
jackmott42 wrote: post #45

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Their ethics are terrible. You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. You can only pay for software on their own store. Complete bullshit, and it makes me sad that so many here on HN and elsehwere, tech people who learned to program because their 8088 was completely open and free to let you actually create things and learn about computing, so m…

That’s an overly reductive to prove a biased point. Typical users do not have the same motivations as programmers. The market for connected devices does not have to conform to your expectations. It’s really exhausting pointing out how your argument would effectively force others to produce what satisfies your sensibilities and to protect what you feel is sacrosanct. Programming is “just math”. I don’t need an 8088 to…

> Typical users do not have the same motivations as programmers.

This is actually very untrue in my experience. I can't tell you how many "normal users" ask me whether there is an open source equivalent they can use so they don't have to pay for X, for example, and many have shown interest in doing what they can to optimize their setup and/or reduce their financial burden by getting smarter about how things are set up.

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