AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes • Hacker News Board

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by teraflop » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:49 PM UTC

lemonberry wrote: post #158

ASalazarMX wrote: post #89

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That also enables unreasonable monopolistic behavior, like not allowing ANY browser besides Safari. Why not allow alternative browser engines that follow strict privacy practices? What about native ad blockers? Why not encourage privacy-friendly apps that don't collect data by lowering/waiving their fees?

"like not allowing ANY browser besides Safari" are you saying this is potentially an issue? Because I have Chrome and Firefox installed on my iPhone and MacBook Air. I also have DuckDuckGo's browser on my iPhone.

Apple doesn't allow any other browser engines on iOS except Webkit.

Despite the branding, "Chrome for iOS" and "Firefox for iOS" are fundamentally different products than their Android or desktop counterparts. They're both just wrappers around the same bundled version of Webkit that Safari uses.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by tonystarch » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:49 PM UTC

madeofpalk wrote: post #160

tonystarch wrote: post #136

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There's plenty of Apple criticism on this site. So much so that I find it rather rote and boring to be honest - there's usually very little new or interesting brought up in these conversations, just the same criticism up over and over again. HN is heavily moderated to promote what it sees as "high quality discussions", and Apple flamewars tend to be pretty low quality, so they're deranked.

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Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by rosywoozlechan » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:49 PM UTC

jsnell wrote: post #8

This seems to have been announced a couple of weeks ago, so we don't need to just trust the tweet: https://www.macworld.com/article/1377200/apple-to-limit-aird... Having it open to everyone for only a limited amount of time actually kind of seems like the right thing, but it's hard to come up with a legit explanation for why they rushed that change to China first.

so the title of this post is incorrect, this setting was not enabled due to the protests

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by rib3ye » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:50 PM UTC

victorbstan wrote: post #170

Another reply said it was coming because of spam. Can this be verified. I’m suspicious of triggered woke/knee jer reaction twitter posts as any source of reliable info.

Just google "airdrop spam". It's well-publicized.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by vbezhenar » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:50 PM UTC

skrowl wrote: post #162

vbezhenar wrote: post #123

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I'm pretty sure this is not true. They slow down the device when battery can't provide enough current to sustain unthrottled CPU. Its happening in the latest iOS. It happened with my 5 year phone few months ago which suddenly turned off. I don't even feel this throttling but it doesn't turn off anymore. On an unrelated note, my Google Pixel 7 just hanged up. It didn't happen to me since windows XP I think. It's the w…

It's 100% true, beyond a shadow of a doubt. Not only did it go to court, Apple admitted doing it and paid over $100M in damages. https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936268845/apple-agrees-to-pay...

This article states that Apple did that to increase battery life. Do you have other sources to back your claims?

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by boringg » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:51 PM UTC

curiousgal wrote: post #33

mhoad wrote: post #9

I don’t ever want to hear again how Apple is some champion of privacy and ethics. I’ve lost count of how many scandals have come out of their relationship with China from the suicide nets to the repeated investigations showing their supply chain was riddled with slave labor that they would later campaign against protections that would prevent it. Now this. They are fucked as a company, I can’t get out of their ecosys…

> I can’t get out of their ecosystem fast enough. I don't know if you mean this literally but to me it was very simple. Just stopped buying their products. I am still alive, productive and with a clearer consciousness.

I mean you don't really believe that OP is actually on the apple ecosystem do you? And that this one thing is the straw that broke the camels back?

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by lordofgibbons » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:51 PM UTC

gorkish wrote: post #73

I have to admit that when you actually look at the details this is a rather perplexing change. Ditto for reading the comments here. Is Apple being Pro-CCP with this change? If you open airdrop to everyone, your device can be tracked and identified individually. When this setting is disabled, this becomes far harder. I'm of the opinion that this change is good and actually increases security across the board, includin…

>If you open airdrop to everyone, your device can be tracked and identified individually.

That can already be done using cell towers (especially with 5G) and GPS enabled state-supervised apps like WeChat, etc. So that's not a good reason.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by ralfd » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:52 PM UTC

travisgriggs wrote: post #145

I'm a little confused by the "Apple's doing bad here" sentiment. The easier to implement, and definitely more effective solution would have been to just disable the Everyone feature completely. Just remove it from the menu. This would have been something like action.isEnabled = self.isInChina Instead, they went through the effort to actually make it still there, but time bombed. They had to add a timeout function, an…

> For me, this basically feels like lip service to the Chinese government, but otherwise a finger. Maybe I'm beeing too myopic.

Plus they led everyone know about China in rolling the feature change there first.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by ibz » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:52 PM UTC

skrowl wrote: post #154

webinvest wrote: post #83

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Do you personally know anyone who has been using the same iPhone for 8 years? I find that claim dubious.

You can't even run WhatsApp on a 6S, which is just 7 years old. So I doubt.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by dwaite » Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:52 PM UTC

ASalazarMX wrote: post #89

yamtaddle wrote: post #59

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> You pay $1000 for a computer, and you are only allowed to install software on it that Apple says you are allowed to. For i-devices, yeah, true. > You can only pay for software on their own store. As nice as exposing the App store to more market effects might be, the app store monopoly enables them to force other companies to be less shitty on the platform (or else abandon it—but it's lucrative, so most don't), so i…

That also enables unreasonable monopolistic behavior, like not allowing ANY browser besides Safari. Why not allow alternative browser engines that follow strict privacy practices? What about native ad blockers? Why not encourage privacy-friendly apps that don't collect data by lowering/waiving their fees?

> Why not allow alternative browser engines that follow strict privacy practices?

It isn't just a privacy argument. Browsers need security exceptions for full performance, such as compilation of Javascript/WebAssembly. The browsers may also not have enough process infrastructure to support their native sandboxing strategy on iOS.

Someone can make arguments on whether Blink's rendering engine would have business motivation for an iOS port. However, the sandboxing and javascript differences were large motivating technical factors in Blink forking from WebKit in the first place.