This is kind of sad. It just feels like OP has built this enormous apparatus over some emotional void they've picked up in their development. Making friends just isn't that hard for the vast majority of people. If you're having to use reverse engineering and problem solving to form emotional connections, then you might want to spend the time in therapy and working through what caused you to be emotionally stunted.
Intentionally making close friends
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Re: Intentionally making close friends
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am one of these friendly extroverts. Something that's hard for me to explain is that "making friends is so hard it's easy" What I mean by that is, social anxiety is so high, population-level self-absorption is so high, people are so lonely... that for the most part if you just approach someone and behave as if you're friends... they'll go for it. There's so much DEMAND for friends, that people will gobble up your s…
> There's so much DEMAND for friends, that people will gobble up your supply if you offer it (so long as you're not a total monster) This really doesn't ring true outside of school/university years. Back then, you are constantly meeting new people, and seeing them regularly in class and on campus. People that age don't have a "max occupancy" number when it comes to making friends. As an adult in the working world, th…
But this is so outside my perception of the world and that of everyone I've ever spoken to (across a swatch of demographics across North America and Europe).
Friendship groups narrow because it isn't EASY anymore (you're not all on campus).
Nobody actually desires for them to narrow.
If you can make it *easy* for the other person (by handling the approach, scheduling, etc). They'll be as willing as in uni days
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#113I’ve moved a ton in my life, and I have an annoying habit of losing touch with friends when I move away. Out of sight, out of mind, ya know?
Anyway, to combat this annoying habit, I started scheduling monthly phone/video calls with each of those friends. It’s been a game changer, especially as folks have kids and busy lives.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know, I have made friends well into my adult life, including after having kids. Granted it is not in the same frequency as in the uni days but still during the years I have found some. Mostly people I have bumped into at work but were not directly above or below me or via other friends who introduced me to their friends. I am not an extrovert or too introvert and I don't know why it seems like everyone here m…
I think this is highly dependent on luck. If you're friendly and happen to live near other, outgoing, friendly families, then the odds of befriending them are higher. It also helps to have a friendly spouse (it helps a LOT).
My best friend for 20 years (we've since fallen out of touch), was someone I met in kindergarten?
How did we become friends?
My surname starts with a "G" and his starts with an "H" so we were seated next to each other
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#115Serious question. For those who have had close friends in their late teens to mid 20s, do you still have close friends after a significant life event like getting a job, getting married, moving to a new city, having a baby, etc? I relate with the author of this article in my 20s, but cannot relate at all in my 30s because my life has significantly changed (for the better).
And no, I didn't make new friends in the same way. Being young with a lot of time and no responsibilities doesn't ever come back.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with your distinction, but not with your degree. It's *hard* v. *complex*, but it doesn't take as long as you'd think. - Approach - Chatting for an hour - 10 texts back and forth to coordinate a meet - Meet for 90 minutes (repeat the last two bullets 3-5 times) Is a pretty reliable path to "good friend". Good friend is defined as: "Will reliable hang with you, schedule permitting 60% of the time you ask... an…
I like the straightforward, logical approach -- it's helpful for me to think about the process in those terms. Thank you. However, thinking about the process this way makes it really apparent that I've got no desire in trying to make friends -- each of those steps individually feels like a nearly insurmountable nightmare for me... much less doing all of them (and more than once!).
The little bit you know about me from this thread... would you want to grab a beer if all you had to do was read the text and confirm you were available?
These steps ARE scary for some people... and that's okay... I'm happy to do it. I just want to get to you know you!
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There's so much DEMAND for friends, that people will gobble up your supply if you offer it (so long as you're not a total monster) This really doesn't ring true outside of school/university years. Back then, you are constantly meeting new people, and seeing them regularly in class and on campus. People that age don't have a "max occupancy" number when it comes to making friends. As an adult in the working world, th…
Isn't there supposed to be an epidemic of loneliness amongst many adults?
Re: Intentionally making close friends
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
While the author is young, they've made some accurate observations - at least in my experience.
The author's primary advice for making more friends is that you will have conversations with lots of people and you should iterate through them quickly by making more intimate conversation and revealing something about yourself to deepen the relationship. This makes sense if the author is a student at a school of any meaningful size in a popular major. But it doesn't make sense for adults struggling to make connectio…
Your critique of point #2 is that a middle-aged adult has less opportunities for casual conversations with a stranger than a university student?
Maybe. Off the top of my head, here's a list of places a middle-aged adult can find casual conversations that may lead to friendships: gym, grocery shopping, volunteer work, hikes, walking in the park, sports, library, cafe, public events, bar, club, mall, in the checkout line at any store... I can go on. If you consider all these different avenues, you encounter 100+ strangers every day.
I'm a middle-aged adult that had no problem making friends throughout school. It was easy, almost the default. I lost most of them to time and distance. And now, I find myself with little to no close friends, outside of my family and significant other, because making friends isn't the default as an adult. Making friends takes work!
The author correctly highlights that you must exercise intent to make friends. I've discovered some parts of this through trial-and-error over the past couple months as I've been intentionally putting myself out there, and have received promising results so far. I still have a ways to go.
I leave you with a recent experience of mine that touches upon a lot of the author's points.
I workout 5-6 days a week at the gym. Headphones in, don't bother me. I see this same guy every day I'm there. He's working out, but he's talking with people too. Half the people there know him. For weeks, we'd pass by each other and say nothing. Until one day, I passed him in the hallway and asked him "How often do you work out and for how long?" Such a random question, but I was curious because I see him every time I'm there no matter the time. He gave me a long detailed rundown, told me about his 165-day streak, why he does it, etc etc. We exchanged names and then went about our days. Since then, we've spoken to each other every time we see each other, and our conversations have gradually gone deeper and deeper. And there's something strange about him... he's present. He's not in a rush, he's fully engaged in the conversation, and he's not afraid to talk about anything. So when we talked about what we did for Thanksgiving, I shared a little bit of vulnerability about how most of my family and friends are spread out across the country in different locations. Well, he was familiar with one of them, and actually traveled there to propose and get engaged. Turns out we'd been to some of the same places off the beaten path and enjoy the same things. Then the next time we talked, I asked about his wedding, and he shared some vulnerability about how the woman left a year after the engagement, just before the wedding, so on and so on.
This experience isn't unique. Since becoming intentional, open, and willing to share my actual self, I've had this same experience many times over the past couple months. Once with the cashier who was checking me out at a sporting goods store. Our conversation twisted and turned into her sharing vulnerability about growing older, with her birthday just a week away. Now, when I see her, we have real meaningful conversations without feeling like we have to be "normal".
Yet still, after these positive experiences, I don't exchange information, follow up, or take initiative. And that's what I need to improve upon. Because why wouldn't I do that after having a few good conversations? Well because I'm scared, I don't want to feel like I'm imposing, and what happens if we don't actually get along. Oh well... just have to dive in. :)
Re: Intentionally making close friends
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There's so much DEMAND for friends, that people will gobble up your supply if you offer it (so long as you're not a total monster) This really doesn't ring true outside of school/university years. Back then, you are constantly meeting new people, and seeing them regularly in class and on campus. People that age don't have a "max occupancy" number when it comes to making friends. As an adult in the working world, th…
Isn't there supposed to be an epidemic of loneliness amongst many adults?
But loneliness is up among all generations, including those who are in the right time and right place (post-secondary). Many reasons for this as well, including the impact of internet and social media. People are less willing to give others a chance because Tinder/Tiktok/IG has trained them to think that another more interesting experience could be right around the corner.
Re: Intentionally making close friends
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am one of these friendly extroverts. Something that's hard for me to explain is that "making friends is so hard it's easy" What I mean by that is, social anxiety is so high, population-level self-absorption is so high, people are so lonely... that for the most part if you just approach someone and behave as if you're friends... they'll go for it. There's so much DEMAND for friends, that people will gobble up your s…
> There's so much DEMAND for friends, that people will gobble up your supply if you offer it (so long as you're not a total monster) This really doesn't ring true outside of school/university years. Back then, you are constantly meeting new people, and seeing them regularly in class and on campus. People that age don't have a "max occupancy" number when it comes to making friends. As an adult in the working world, th…
I agree. At this point in life, I just want people to leave me alone. It seems like there isn't any time to make friends anyways.