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Post by alphabetting »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #28
mhoad wrote: post #9

I don’t ever want to hear again how Apple is some champion of privacy and ethics. I’ve lost count of how many scandals have come out of their relationship with China from the suicide nets to the repeated investigations showing their supply chain was riddled with slave labor that they would later campaign against protections that would prevent it. Now this. They are fucked as a company, I can’t get out of their ecosys…

The problem is that the alternative (Google) is worse.

Pretty sure Google has been mostly out of China since Operation Aurora.

Re: AirDrop is now limited to 10 minutes

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Post by mhoad »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #28
mhoad wrote: post #9

I don’t ever want to hear again how Apple is some champion of privacy and ethics. I’ve lost count of how many scandals have come out of their relationship with China from the suicide nets to the repeated investigations showing their supply chain was riddled with slave labor that they would later campaign against protections that would prevent it. Now this. They are fucked as a company, I can’t get out of their ecosys…

The problem is that the alternative (Google) is worse.

It’s not even a little bit close. Go on… tell me about how Google spent millions lobbying against human rights or worked with authoritarian regimes or had workers killing themselves in such high numbers that they had to reconfigure their workplaces.

Google did what Apple should have ten years ago and pulled out of China when faced with similar problems.

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Post by pessimizer »

elicash wrote: post #7
throwaway23597 wrote: post #2

Apple: where it's totally fine to build products with what amounts to slave labor, and aiding the CCP in censorship is totally cool too, but Twitter is far too dangerous to be allowed on the app store because a meanie is in charge of it.

Speaking of twitter, it's weird Musk hasn't commented yet on the protests in China. Looking forward to him taking on censorship and standing for free speech around the globe, particularly in China.

I'm not sure why you want to hear Musk's opinions on the protests in China, I assume it's either because you're a big fan or because you think its essential that every rich person opine about every issue so that the poors know how they should think about it.

What I wonder is why so many libs are so happy about anti-covid lockdown protests? Backwards day, or just nationalists?

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Post by elicash »

fredgrott wrote: post #40
elicash wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking of twitter, it's weird Musk hasn't commented yet on the protests in China. Looking forward to him taking on censorship and standing for free speech around the globe, particularly in China.

he did in fact, also be aware that we might be able to get his deleted tweets via archive.org

Link? I will edit if so.

I have found some pro-China tweets from Musk, but that's it.

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Post by s0rce »

jibbers wrote: post #57
mhoad wrote: post #9

I don’t ever want to hear again how Apple is some champion of privacy and ethics. I’ve lost count of how many scandals have come out of their relationship with China from the suicide nets to the repeated investigations showing their supply chain was riddled with slave labor that they would later campaign against protections that would prevent it. Now this. They are fucked as a company, I can’t get out of their ecosys…

> suicide nets I assume this is about Foxconn. Does that mean you'll be boycotting other companies that also work with them, like Amazon, Dell, Google, HP, Intel, Microsoft, Vizio, Acer, Lenovo, Nintendo, and Sony? I'm genuinely asking. It's a tough pill to swallow to learn all our tech stuff we all enjoy is built on the backs of poor people on the other side of the planet.

The raw materials have a pretty bad track record as well.

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Post by Maximus9000 »

jsnell wrote: post #8

This seems to have been announced a couple of weeks ago, so we don't need to just trust the tweet: https://www.macworld.com/article/1377200/apple-to-limit-aird... Having it open to everyone for only a limited amount of time actually kind of seems like the right thing, but it's hard to come up with a legit explanation for why they rushed that change to China first.

That's interesting that this was rolled out a few weeks ago, however the article also says:

> Apple won’t admit why this change is being made in China, but the peer-to-peer nature of AirDrop has made it popular for spreading anti-government protest material, and hopping into your settings every 10 minutes to re-enable the ability to receive AirDrop from strangers makes it a lot less useful for that.

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Post by walrus01 »

karaterobot wrote: post #37
walrus01 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, to be real here, it's continuing the principles of being run for a very long time by a world class, top tier, grade A asshole . Steve Jobs was well known for screaming at people and throwing fits of rage and such. Petulantly demanding that he get his way as the only possible method something could be done. Does anyone seriously think that Jobs cared even the slightest about the Foxconn/Hon Hai Precision Indus…

No fan of Jobs here, but there's no logical connection between him being an asshole and Apple's decision to change AirDrop behavior more than a decade after his death.

I would posit that a hyper-aggressive corporate culture established by such a person, and continued in a not-very-modified form up until the present day, is more likely to make "accommodations" to things like the CCP and government of China for their local Apple cloud services subsidiary, provide crypto keys/copies of data on request, etc.

Because obviously it serves the global revenue and china-source-revenue figure to sell more Apple devices in China no matter the human rights and privacy consequences.

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Post by foepys »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #28
mhoad wrote: post #9

I don’t ever want to hear again how Apple is some champion of privacy and ethics. I’ve lost count of how many scandals have come out of their relationship with China from the suicide nets to the repeated investigations showing their supply chain was riddled with slave labor that they would later campaign against protections that would prevent it. Now this. They are fucked as a company, I can’t get out of their ecosys…

The problem is that the alternative (Google) is worse.

Is it? With the Android Open Source Project you can create your own completely Google-free Android distribution that you can install on quite a lot of devices.

Not that I like Google, I actually actively dislike it and hate all the anti-competitive things they did (with Android, too), but let's stay with the facts here.

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Post by falcolas »

mhoad wrote: post #62
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that the alternative (Google) is worse.

It’s not even a little bit close. Go on… tell me about how Google spent millions lobbying against human rights or worked with authoritarian regimes or had workers killing themselves in such high numbers that they had to reconfigure their workplaces. Google did what Apple should have ten years ago and pulled out of China when faced with similar problems.

Google builds phones at Foxconn too.

Google has also worked on many projects in order to appeal to China's government as well.

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Post by jaywalk »

walrus01 wrote: post #42
elicash wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking of twitter, it's weird Musk hasn't commented yet on the protests in China. Looking forward to him taking on censorship and standing for free speech around the globe, particularly in China.

You don't buy a majority stake in a $44bn company where the 2nd largest pre-existing, long standing early investor and shareholder is the Saudi royal family unless you're very comfortable with authoritarian regimes. edit: the saudis still own their shares, https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2022/10/31/saudi-prin...

He didn't buy a majority stake, he bought the entire company.
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