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Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by aspir »

oinksoft wrote: post #16
jeremymcanally wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're being paid. I think the slavery charge is a bit much. Plus, you don't know the program structure. That may include homework/group sort of stuff in addition to work and instruction. It'll be like 5 months of college with a job. It's no different if you actually calculate the time investment.

18-month commitment required

This is typically how most top 5 MBA programs get a majority of their students. The applicant will work for a company for 1-2 years, then qualify for an MBA voucher on the condition that the student come back for an additional 2-3 afterwards. In the broad scheme of things, 18 months of work plus only a few months of teaching load (as opposed to 2 year MBAs), is a dream.

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by watmough »

j3 wrote: post #18
enry_straker wrote: post #13

I used a similar approach when i wanted Windows internals programmers in the early 90's. I just called it a internal training program, though. Irrespective of the number of hours put up, i still think a person new to rails will get a chance to pick up a lot of knowledge and be mentored in the proces - and is a good deal for collage kids.

In a week, or so, you'll find out how this is very different from an internal training program. We're going to make this very external , a learning experience for whoever wants to be involved.

This sounds really promising. Hopefully, and it would be silly not to, you'll have something in place to detect smart people following along outside.

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by JonnieCache »

I've always disliked the term "hungry," usually it seems to be meant literally, ie. "we know you currently can't afford to eat, and we're going to exploit your weak position mercilessly."

Not to say this is necessarily what's going to happen here of course, but be careful boys and girls.

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by enry_straker »

j3 wrote: post #18
enry_straker wrote: post #13

I used a similar approach when i wanted Windows internals programmers in the early 90's. I just called it a internal training program, though. Irrespective of the number of hours put up, i still think a person new to rails will get a chance to pick up a lot of knowledge and be mentored in the proces - and is a good deal for collage kids.

In a week, or so, you'll find out how this is very different from an internal training program. We're going to make this very external , a learning experience for whoever wants to be involved.

Apologies if this came across negetively.

My goal, at the time i started my company, was to build a really hard-core team. I am sure that is one of your goals too, aside from providing a really intensive training program for your participants.

I would suggest focusing on good habits and good attitude to learning and problem-solving and having fun in the process. Don't allow them to burn out short-term.

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by vaksel »

that application is terrible

I can see it being fine as a step 2...but it's way too big as a first step. And you want someone for a job as a programmer...and yet your "filter" for this is essays and videos?

Anyone who'd bother to waste a day writing all those essays and making the videos, can learn RoR on their own...especially if they are already a programmer since RoR is not that different from the other languages

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by safetyscissors »

I'm gonna give this a shot. I've been worried for a while about my skills as a developer and felt that I wasn't up to the same standard as other people (Just like everyone I guess). I think this is a perfect avenue for anyone who wants to get some more experience. Good luck to those entering :)

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by sdoering »

darklajid wrote: post #17
sdoering wrote: post #6

Is it just me, or is it just the cultural difference (I am from germany, where we - god be blessed - have laws against these kind of hours)- but if I am expected to work 70h+/week in this thing, I belive, the same would be expected if anyone gets that job. Well done. slavery seems back at last.

German counter point: Give me something that is _fun_ and/or _interesting_ and I'm happily spending a big amount of time on it - and in fact, I did that in Germany as well, laws or not. I'm not sure I'd sign something that says "You're required to put in these hours". The compensation is completely open - I don't know if these people are payed as junior developers or trainees/interns etc.. - I guess that factors into…

As said in another comment, I understood a little bit more after another explenation.

I did a lot more hours for projects, that were quite fun for me, while doing everything I could, to make sure our "customers" (as it was an paid event, but in a hobby-environment i wrote the "") had an exeptional time.

So yeah, I'm totally OK, with working long hours. But not, if a boss "just" demands it.

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by agentultra »

idiot900 wrote: post #39

"Not a programmer? Apply." How do you expect to turn someone into a decent programmer in five months when they are starting from scratch?

I suspect by specializing them in developing with a specific language (Ruby) on a specific framework (Rails).

I doubt candidates will come out knowing how to approach computing models, implement algorithms, explain sequent calculus type systems, and write compilers.

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