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Lab-Grown Meat Is Safe to Eat, FDA Says

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Re: Lab-Grown Meat Is Safe to Eat, FDA Says

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The safe thing to do for this kind of things is to wait for others to consume it in mass first. It is not like there is a pressure for you to eat lab grown meats.

There's always some politician willing to do anything for a Creutzfel Jacob equivalent...

https://youtu.be/QobuvWX_Grc

John Selwyn Gummer (twat) "is noted for delaying a ban on beef in 1989, and for the way he attempted to feed a hamburger to his four-year-old daughter Cordelia at the height of the BSE panic in 1990, though his daughter did not eat it as it was too "hot" and she was full."

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It will be animal cells differentiated into muscle tissues on collagen scaffolds initially. The technology comes from attempts to grow functional organs (ie, liver) that are biocompatible in the body serum proper. If there aren't health effects from transplantation within the animal type you can probably eat the animal tissues just fine. It's the same thing. It's meat. It's just without the animal suffering. And hope…

"And hopefully it'll eventually be cheaper than growing animals too." Just as simply planting a tree and letting the sun provide the energy for it's growth will always beat those "synthetic trees" people like to hype from time to time, I can expect to never see a synthetic process that is more cost effective to create "meat" than simply letting nature do it's thing. Down here in Brazil you basically give the animals…

What about something like lab diamonds? You can give nature billions of years to "do it's thing" or we can produce the same result in a lab in a matter of weeks without any suffering and at a fraction of the cost. Synthetic processes can be quite efficient and it sounds like you're discarding them completely which is a little shortsighted.

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Are the companies getting costs under control? I remember reading an article last year [1] about how the cost curve isn't looking favorable. 1: https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-sca...

Getting costs down often requires preparing for mass production, prior to this, mass production was not viable, this is the necessary next step.

Oh sure, but the article indicates that even at scale there will be incredible challenges due to the cleanliness standards required, for example. I don't take that one article as gospel, but it seemed pretty damning and well-researched. I'd love to see a rebuttal to it.

Re: Lab-Grown Meat Is Safe to Eat, FDA Says

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Yeah I’m going to let other folks experiment with that for 10 or so years and see where it goes. I’m sure the meat is fine, it’s just a matter of not contaminating it during the process that I’m concerned about. The FDA is really poor at enforcing the health and safety aspects of manufacturing and processing. They simply don’t have enough inspectors and the inspectors don’t fine big offenders enough

You won’t, because the FDA will make it illegal for supermarkets to label their meat as being not lab grown, the same as they do for GMO foods.

Re: Lab-Grown Meat Is Safe to Eat, FDA Says

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There's also this:

"Flavour enhancers [developed using] aborted fetal tissue are being eaten without the knowledge of consumers. Amounts of these flavour enhancers used in food products are below a certain threshold, so they don't need to be reported or safety-tested by the FDA."

This technology is being used to develop plant-based meats. Plus, look at the ingredients used, way too much soy, and lots of other suspicious things.

https://twitter.com/Babygravy9/status/1597242169299210241

Re: Lab-Grown Meat Is Safe to Eat, FDA Says

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It will be animal cells differentiated into muscle tissues on collagen scaffolds initially. The technology comes from attempts to grow functional organs (ie, liver) that are biocompatible in the body serum proper. If there aren't health effects from transplantation within the animal type you can probably eat the animal tissues just fine. It's the same thing. It's meat. It's just without the animal suffering. And hope…

For context, the life of an average herbivore in the wild consists of living with no shelter in harsh weather while having to fear every sound. And it typically ends by being ripped to pieces by a predator and eaten alive while the brain still has some residual oxygen and awareness. The typical farmed animal experience where you are sheltered, vaccinated against common illnesses, provided food and slaughtered after b…

Nature's basically a real-life horror film for anything not at the tippy-top of the chain in an area, every hour of every day. Which means most things that aren't humans. But, farming doesn't really help with that, especially industrial farming.

You're either constantly at risk from hordes of relentless and effective slasher-murder-cannibals (to put it in human-focused horror movie terms—they're not really cannibals when it's one species eating another, of course) and will very probably be killed and eaten by one before you can die of other "natural causes", and every moment you're not on high alert is a moment you're more likely than normal to abruptly be murdered, or you're in one of those movies where aliens or vampires or something are farming you for whatever reason, typically in such horrible conditions that you really might prefer to take your chances with the super-murderers out in the wild.

It's all very pretty to look at when you're at the top but IMO Lovecraft's works, or films like The Thing, really capture the underlying reality of what life is, fundamentally. Incomprehensible, brutally savage, and horrifying, mostly. One of those things you kinda have to try not to think about too much (which is one of the ways it's all a bit Lovecraftian—not healthy to contemplate actual-reality, rather than our illusions about it, in this case).

Re: Lab-Grown Meat Is Safe to Eat, FDA Says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"And hopefully it'll eventually be cheaper than growing animals too." Just as simply planting a tree and letting the sun provide the energy for it's growth will always beat those "synthetic trees" people like to hype from time to time, I can expect to never see a synthetic process that is more cost effective to create "meat" than simply letting nature do it's thing. Down here in Brazil you basically give the animals…

Analogy aside, just because the process has been evolutionarily optimized it doesn't mean it's the most efficient way of doing it. There's a lot of other evolutionary pressure where energy is expended in ways that don't benefit obtaining the arbitrary end product. Say synthetic wood as your example, I would be willing to bet that a dedicated system that extracts CO2 for the carbon and combines it with water to make c…

If it was evolutionarily optimized, it most likely is not the most efficient way of doing something but it most certainly is the most resilient way.

Potato blight? soon to be available for: meat!

Re: Lab-Grown Meat Is Safe to Eat, FDA Says

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> The cost of lab-grown meat will likely be several times that of regular meat, according to Wired. Producing meat in the lab “will never be done with anything remotely like the economics you need for food,” Pat Brown, founder of the plant-based meat company Impossible Foods, told the Post last year. Obviously he isn't an objective observer but I wonder what the argument is to back up the claim that it "will never be…

'Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons' moment
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