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The Oceanic+ app comes to Apple Watch Ultra

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Title is misleading. This is a third party application for the Apple Watch Ultra that is being highlighted, not an Apple product itself.

Apple is the company who seems to be announcing this, although it does make it sound like a first-party application.

It does seem like Apple was involved though, so I guess it's not really 100% 3rd-party either. Maybe we can call it 2nd-party?

> Designed by Huish Outdoors in collaboration with Apple,

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Haptics you can feel through a 7mm wetsuit? I'm impressed by that, although I'd not want them turned up that high on my bare wrist!

This seems like a winner for vacation diving. For those divers that manage a couple dives a year on the family trip to the Caribbean, you have a device you know extremely well from daily life and that you know you keep charged, rather than a standalone computer you kinda forgot to get serviced or, worse, have to rent. Big, clear ascent rate warnings in color. It looks more accessible than some inscrutable Suunto, especially with a companion phone app.

If I had an apple watch I'd wear this it on my other wrist to my Perdix just to get GPS integration and all the health monitoring too - interesting to correlate heart rate with events in the dive, gas consumption and so on.

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This is still crazy to me that most (all?) smartwatch cannot get past ~50m WR when I can buy a basic casio for a fraction of the cost with 100m to 200m WR. But then I guess using a tactile screen underwater is pretty hard. I really don't see the Apple Watch being use has anything but a gadget for diving.

edit: so the apple watch ultra has a WR of 100m. I stand corrected.

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Any HN scuba divers here that would use this as their only dive computer on a dive? I'm not a scuba diver myself but do engage in other adventure sports where reliable equipment can make the difference between a great trip and disaster. I'd be very reluctant to trust my life or health to this.

I plan to do so, and already purchased an Apple Watch Ultra for this purpose. I also started writing my own dive computer app for the watch to learn SwiftUI. My plan is to dive a few more times with both a traditional rented dive computer and the Ultra to build confidence, and then switch 100% over to the Ultra.

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Any HN scuba divers here that would use this as their only dive computer on a dive? I'm not a scuba diver myself but do engage in other adventure sports where reliable equipment can make the difference between a great trip and disaster. I'd be very reluctant to trust my life or health to this.

Given that the app developer is a manufacturer of dive computers (including a watch), it’s likely to be relatively trustworthy.

Nonetheless, from the press release: “Always follow diving protocols and dive with a companion and have a secondary device.”

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That is cool. I assume that it has been tested and certified. Dive computers are critical safety gear. You really don't want them crashing on you.

Crashing would be the least of the worries in my opinion. If it crashes, you as a diver know what to do and it’s no different from any other dive computer breaking.

My major worry would be bad sensor readings or software errors leading it to provide bad instructions on how fast you can surface, or how long you need to do decompression stops. Depending on the dive, it’s a situation where differences in the displayed numbers mean the difference between a great day and serious injury.

I really hope; but also expect that this is thoroughly tested.

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I think this looks amazing for warm-water vacation divers - typically they are stuck with rental equipment, which usually means a cheap, dated computer on a bulky console. Having a well-designed UI will definitely improve these divers safety - the last boat dive I went on, an experienced diver blew past no-deco limits because he didn't understand his unfamiliar rental computer.

That being said, I can't personally imagine taking the Apple Watch Ultra to, say, 80-90 feet if it's only rated to 130. It's just too expensive.

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Title is misleading. This is a third party application for the Apple Watch Ultra that is being highlighted, not an Apple product itself.

It’s not misleading, this is Apple releasing the news and it has obviously been developed in collaboration with Apple. The term “Dive computer” is not something to be taken lightly. It’s hardware you literally depend on to keep you alive during a dive. The fact that Apple is supporting this externally developed app says they have a very higher level of trust in their hardware. Typically a dive computer would cost mor…

Most dive computers cost less (often less than half) than an Apple Watch Ultra and don't require any subscription to maintain functionality.

Also, since you are trusting your life to the waterproofing of the watch, a EDC watch that takes abuse all day that could compromise that waterproofing seems like a bit of a risk unless it is only being used as a secondary / backup dive computer.

Re: The Oceanic+ app comes to Apple Watch Ultra

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Yet you will still void the warranty if you dive with it: Apple Watch Ultra has a water resistance rating of 100 meters under ISO standard 22810. Apple Watch Ultra may be used for recreational scuba diving (with a compatible third-party app from the App Store) to 40 meters, and for high-speed water sports. Apple Watch Ultra should not be used for diving below 40 meters. Water resistance is not a permanent condition a…

What do you mean? It’s rated to 100m, which is quite a bit below the 40m limit for most recreational diving.

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Any HN scuba divers here that would use this as their only dive computer on a dive? I'm not a scuba diver myself but do engage in other adventure sports where reliable equipment can make the difference between a great trip and disaster. I'd be very reluctant to trust my life or health to this.

it says it's rated to 40 meters, which is good for most recreational diving. This would not apply for deeper dives.

I'm curious to see what they have for using it with diver communication and collaboration. If one diver sees something of interest, they can easily notify other divers. I'm not sure if or how well Bluetooth works underwater?

The haptic vibration would be useful to notify about reaching maximum bottom time, and for decompression rest stops while ascending.

But I think I would still keep my traditional dive computer next to pressure gauge in my diving setup.

I wonder if they will have a wireless pressure sensor on the tank so you can also track air pressure and consumption? That would be neat.

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