Have seen Beyond Meat ground beef substitute in supermakret but it plant like and unfulfilling
Beyond Meat is struggling, and the plant-based meat industry worries
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Re: Beyond Meat is struggling, and the plant-based meat industry worries
#22It really is not that complex to understand: You either love meat and won't touch these things with a 10 feet pole or you are vegetarian/vegan and usually take care of what you put in your body, meaning probably a limited amount of junk/processed food, meaning no fake meat substitutes. The market really isn't that big imho, there are already plenty of alternative to meat for most applications, which are cheaper, less…
Or you eat meat, take care of what you in your body, and know these meat substitutes are a gimmick to put "health halos" on highly processed soy products that were formerly just sold to prisons.
They're processed, but not soy. Mostly pea protein.
Re: Beyond Meat is struggling, and the plant-based meat industry worries
#23It really is not that complex to understand: You either love meat and won't touch these things with a 10 feet pole or you are vegetarian/vegan and usually take care of what you put in your body, meaning probably a limited amount of junk/processed food, meaning no fake meat substitutes. The market really isn't that big imho, there are already plenty of alternative to meat for most applications, which are cheaper, less…
Or you eat meat, take care of what you in your body, and know these meat substitutes are a gimmick to put "health halos" on highly processed soy products that were formerly just sold to prisons.
This firmly puts you in the first category
Re: Beyond Meat is struggling, and the plant-based meat industry worries
#24It really is not that complex to understand: You either love meat and won't touch these things with a 10 feet pole or you are vegetarian/vegan and usually take care of what you put in your body, meaning probably a limited amount of junk/processed food, meaning no fake meat substitutes. The market really isn't that big imho, there are already plenty of alternative to meat for most applications, which are cheaper, less…
This is a very common theory on Beyond/vegetarian meat-like alternatives. At least in my perception, this is incorrect. I eat vegetarian, and know many others in my circles (24-32 year olds, mostly in Ams and NYC) who do, or who try to eat less meat. This:
> you are vegetarian/vegan and usually take care of what you put in your body, meaning probably a limited amount of junk/processed food, meaning no fake meat substitutes.
is very false for my circles. All this means for these people just means "no meat" or "no animal products". These people around me (and I) eat just as many frozen pizzas, microwave meals, and junk food as any other person. We just substitute meat versions for non-meat versions. That usually means making fully vegetarian/vegan dishes, but it's not at all uncommon, especially among those who eat less meat, to substitute meat with meat-like alternatives.
I know very few people who actually care to put in the time to home-make their own patties etc.
Re: Beyond Meat is struggling, and the plant-based meat industry worries
#25It really is not that complex to understand: You either love meat and won't touch these things with a 10 feet pole or you are vegetarian/vegan and usually take care of what you put in your body, meaning probably a limited amount of junk/processed food, meaning no fake meat substitutes. The market really isn't that big imho, there are already plenty of alternative to meat for most applications, which are cheaper, less…
I hope they stick around (Impossible should be ok). They're not the healthiest, but they're a rare semi-reliable vegetarian/vegan option for when you go out to restaurants. Otherwise you usually have to eat french fries or pasta. And they're also higher protein which is difficult to find going out unless you want to cook all your food at home.
It varies a lot depending on where you live, I'm in Berlin and a lot of restaurants have more vege/vegan options than meat ones these days. Hopefully it'll continue and that path everywhere.
Well prepared tofu/seitan/mushrooms are delicious, nutritive, much more environmentally friendly and you don't have to ask yourself if they were raised ethically or in hell like conditions
It's not perfect, and I have nothing against meat per se, but I acknowledge that we can't eat meant 1-2 times a day every day sustainably/ethically and affordably
Re: Beyond Meat is struggling, and the plant-based meat industry worries
#26It really is not that complex to understand: You either love meat and won't touch these things with a 10 feet pole or you are vegetarian/vegan and usually take care of what you put in your body, meaning probably a limited amount of junk/processed food, meaning no fake meat substitutes. The market really isn't that big imho, there are already plenty of alternative to meat for most applications, which are cheaper, less…
Or you eat meat, take care of what you in your body, and know these meat substitutes are a gimmick to put "health halos" on highly processed soy products that were formerly just sold to prisons.
For me, and I'm not sure how widespread this opinion is, it's not a health halo. I treat beyond/impossible burgers like I treat beef burgers: an occasional dietary splurge. I like them for a few reasons: more sustainably sourced, signalling with my pocketbook that alternatives are important, getting my kids ok with not eating meat occasionally (meatless Mondays sort of thing).
Re: Beyond Meat is struggling, and the plant-based meat industry worries
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or you eat meat, take care of what you in your body, and know these meat substitutes are a gimmick to put "health halos" on highly processed soy products that were formerly just sold to prisons.
They're processed, but not soy. Mostly pea protein.
Pea protein is a garbage incomplete protein too.
Re: Beyond Meat is struggling, and the plant-based meat industry worries
#28This reminds me of the early days of every new technology when the media predicted doom and gloom.
Every time an electric vehicle caught fire it was national news, and then someone in the comments would point out that they weren't catching fire any more than gas cars, but that wasn't newsworthy.
The early days of the Internet, the media constantly portrayed it as full of child porn and hackers.
Now the ultra-critical lens is on meat alternatives. But in 10 years that'll be the default when you order a Big Mac and nobody will think of it as any weirder than any of the other ingredients in packaged and prepared foods.
Re: Beyond Meat is struggling, and the plant-based meat industry worries
#29It really is not that complex to understand: You either love meat and won't touch these things with a 10 feet pole or you are vegetarian/vegan and usually take care of what you put in your body, meaning probably a limited amount of junk/processed food, meaning no fake meat substitutes. The market really isn't that big imho, there are already plenty of alternative to meat for most applications, which are cheaper, less…
> You either love meat and won't touch these things with a 10 feet pole
I love meat and regularly buy these instead of hamburgers. While shopping for vegan Thanksgiving guests I saw some patties that imitate chicken. Going to try those out soon too.
Re: Beyond Meat is struggling, and the plant-based meat industry worries
#30It really is not that complex to understand: You either love meat and won't touch these things with a 10 feet pole or you are vegetarian/vegan and usually take care of what you put in your body, meaning probably a limited amount of junk/processed food, meaning no fake meat substitutes. The market really isn't that big imho, there are already plenty of alternative to meat for most applications, which are cheaper, less…
There's, at least, a third group that stopped eating meat on ethical or climate related grounds rather than taste or health grounds. My daughter was one, as were a decent number of her peers. Whether or not that's a sufficiently large segment that can sustain an industry, though, I'm not competent to judge.