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> know more about the consequences of this virus Than all the other medical and scientific communities in the rest of the world?
the developers of a software know more about its behaviour than all users/hackers in the world
What is going on with China's continuing zero-covid policy? Either it's the most expensive face saving exercise the world has ever seen, or they know something about it that we don't.
Mass infections in Western countries is already an identifiable factor in reduced labour force participation - millions of people not working because of long covid, or need to take care of people not working. Add in the long term (maybe permanent?) cognitive impact, letting Covid run free is a objectively a bad idea. The problem for China is that the entire world has done this, and there are increasing problems with being an outlier - economic, psychological, political. PRC will have to cave, and let it go, but they were not wrong to do covid zero - we all should've done this, together
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I think that it's misunderstanding that dictatorships need any.
I don't know if it's correct to call China a "dictatorship" but I'll humour you for a moment. The idea that dictatorships have everything under control and can conduct themselves however they please is true ... until the point that it isn't. So while a dictator technically doesn't necessarily need to justify themselves or to have a reasonable, fair plan for some given situation that pleases their subjects - they prob…
Seriously? What's your definition of "dictatorship"? Let's take Wikipedia's one for example:
> A dictatorship is a form of government which is characterized by a leader or a group of leaders which holds governmental powers with few to no limitations on them.
Can you sincerely say that it doesn't apply?
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I'm not sure I understand. How does "lab-leak vs non-lab-leak" relate to this?
If it's a lab-leak it means the virus was potentially well studied before the leak, and it's effects known. Therefore the government could know a lot more about it than they claim.
Yeah. When people in mainland China saw all the unmasked foreigners at The World Cup it spawned a lot of ideation. I'll summarize the ideas I've seen floating around the Chinese internet: - It's a money-making scam by the COVID test manufacturers - It's a money-making scam by the temporary quarantine center manufacturers - It's a failure of bureaucracy ”层层加码” - It's a ploy to increase the depth of state surveillance…
I just do not understand why he did not “declare that China won against COVID and how CCP is great”.
(If there is a problem with vaccination rates, the CCP has tools to make that happen. Yes Sinovax vaccine is not very effective but with 3 doses it will cut death rates by 90% or so.)
So the question here is really why Xi decided to keep zero-COVID. Maybe he is not so smart? Or maybe there is a big insider power war going on?
What is going on with China's continuing zero-covid policy? Either it's the most expensive face saving exercise the world has ever seen, or they know something about it that we don't.
They know Sinovac won't cut it so this is them buying time until they can get their homegrown mRNA vaccine out to the public. I'm guessing they had problems at the clinical trial stage or are struggling to get vials produced in the quantities they need.
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do we know what the Party line is about this? Do they, for example, blame western propaganda, involvement etc?
We don't really know much at all. Comment from CNBC: "It was not immediately clear whether the protests reached a meaningful scale in a country of 1.4 billion people, or whether a wide demographic participated" I've seen pro government social media commentators say that the second half of the Foxconn worker statement was not reported by western media, but I won't pretend I know one way or the other. Given that just y…
Makes perfect sense. My brother used to SCUBA dive, and he’s Norwegian, like me, which is Northern European which includes Sweden, so we can draw a lot of conclusions about COVID response validity based on this, with regard to race.
What is the CCP’s exit strategy? Could they feasibly claim to have eradicated covid?
Even without vaccines, the current covid strain is not even that harmful. If they had done complete lockdown during 1st wave or during Delta wave it was one thing (which they already did at that time and majority of world). But after 2 years it is something else. There literally is a world cup happening half around the world, with maskless people and stadiums filled to the brim. I have read online they are doing this…
At this point they are basically face saving "pot committed" to zero COVID.
In a face saving culture you can't just come out tomorrow that zero COVID was a strategy that makes no sense when you went "all in".
Ultimately, people would probably lose more faith in the party if they did a zero COVID 180.
Surely we are over reacting to the few protests we see online. The vast majority of people in China are just going to go along with this.
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- The CCP have been routinely supressing any hypothesis on COVID-19 being a lab-borne virus. - The CCP have been stoic on their approach to zero-COVID - IF the virus was lab-borne, and IF the CCP know it was, is it not (very, very remotely) possible they know more about the consequences of this virus? That line of reasoning is pretty conspiratorial, but given that the CCP have been incredibly cagey about the whole af…
> IF the virus was lab-borne, and IF the CCP know it was, is it not (very, very remotely) possible they know more about the consequences of this virus? Huh? Suppose it did come from a lab, by malice, incompetence, bad luck, or otherwise. Why would this imply that China knows more about it than anyone else? (Sure, China would have known more about it in the first few months. And they surely did regardless of whether i…