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What is going on with China's continuing zero-covid policy? Either it's the most expensive face saving exercise the world has ever seen, or they know something about it that we don't.
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This doesn't make any sense; the vaccine confers immunity.
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You can get it more than once, though.
It's even worse than that; hazard ratio increases significantly with each re-infection https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02051-3
I don’t think this paper is a great source for that idea - the ratio of people with one infection (440,000) to people with three or more infections (1,000) is so different that I wonder if demographics or behavioral characteristics differ between the groups.
Empirically, their conclusion can’t really be true or each COVID-wave would be worse than the preceding one
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The problem is that once they lift it up / fail to contain an outbreak, it will be a devastating one since their population isn't immunized.
China has a 87% COVID vaccination rate, which is higher than the US (79%). However, the Chinese-made vaccines are not very effective, and many of the unvaccinated are elderly. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1279024/china-coronaviru... vaccination-rate/
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Not sure any part of my comment history suggest shill or CCP support but ... i guess on this one I am clearly off kilter from consensus.
CCP is clearly employing censorship on vast scale, this is not disputable at all.
Have you maybe meant "I am rather sceptical of this being evidence of censorship in this specific case."?
What is going on with China's continuing zero-covid policy? Either it's the most expensive face saving exercise the world has ever seen, or they know something about it that we don't.
They expect repeated exposures to mean the west is weakened with lots of people unable to participate in the economy, while their population won't have that issue.
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The problem is that once they lift it up / fail to contain an outbreak, it will be a devastating one since their population isn't immunized.
I'm stumped they didn't consider buying other vaccines. Maybe they don't want to be reliant on the west. They're indeed doing a mistake keep the lock strategy...
What is the CCP’s exit strategy? Could they feasibly claim to have eradicated covid?
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That's strange. My father was a voluntary in the polio vaccination in Argentina in ¿1956?. My mother also remember that epidemic. I guess old people here is one of the more conscious groups about how important are the vaccines.
The polio vaccine is different though. First it is not a mrna vaccine, second it is ~100% efficient in case of 3 doses. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-dur... "Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against paralytic polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective."
Old people (i.e. those who saw the benefit of polio vaccinations and the horrors of non-vaccination) should be more inclined to vaccinate.
Younger people, many of whom have never seen the value of vaccination in their lifetimes, might be more inclined to distrust vaccinations.
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I'm not sure I understand. How does "lab-leak vs non-lab-leak" relate to this?
- The CCP have been routinely supressing any hypothesis on COVID-19 being a lab-borne virus. - The CCP have been stoic on their approach to zero-COVID - IF the virus was lab-borne, and IF the CCP know it was, is it not (very, very remotely) possible they know more about the consequences of this virus? That line of reasoning is pretty conspiratorial, but given that the CCP have been incredibly cagey about the whole af…
What would be an example of a piece of knowledge which they could have about the virus and which would warrant (in our eyes if we knew) 0 covid policy forever? Maybe I lack the imagination.
Edit: Please don't downvote replies to this comment with fabricated not-real scenarios. That's exactly what I asked for!
What is going on with China's continuing zero-covid policy? Either it's the most expensive face saving exercise the world has ever seen, or they know something about it that we don't.
They know it affects the immune system. They expect repeated exposures to mean the west is weakened with lots of people unable to participate in the economy, while their population won't have that issue.