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China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

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Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

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It would show that people in other countries are allowed to gather in sports events. There are currently large protests going on against covid measures, and for freedom in general.

This account reports these events from China: https://twitter.com/vivianwubeijing/status/15969485319184302...

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It's bizarre they're still pushing zero-covid so much, even without vaccines, Covid is dangerous but it's not apocalyptic.

There are two forces colliding here in China. On one hand people are absolutely fed up with barriers everywhere, nose tests, mandatory masks and being locked down at home. On the other hand, 3 years of constant propaganda made them utterly terrified of Covid: if restriction stop tmr, they will crash the economy by doing nothing at all anymore for fear of getting the virus. It s easy for you to say it s not apocalypti…

As they say, you reap what you sow (the CCP, must be terrible for a chinese citizen).

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

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I find much more interesting how Twitter is now flooded with accounts which are suddenly posting NSFW escort tweets containing Chinese city names in Chinese characters and one account is able to post 3000 tweets in 24 hours to flood search results with nonsense.

https://twitter.com/dong_mengyu/status/1596749168462401536

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

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What is the CCP’s exit strategy? Could they feasibly claim to have eradicated covid?

I see two options:

1. Figure out a working vaccine of their own (or maybe just license and rebrand a western one)

2. Become increasingly authoritarian - like a high-tech North Korea

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

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What is the CCP’s exit strategy? Could they feasibly claim to have eradicated covid?

They probably could've slowly dialled back the lockdowns and declared that they're doing so because they've managed to get the situation under control. But they can't do that now, it'll look like they're giving in to the protesters. So they're stuck with zero covid for a while longer

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

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post #10
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's bizarre they're still pushing zero-covid so much, even without vaccines, Covid is dangerous but it's not apocalyptic.

There are two forces colliding here in China. On one hand people are absolutely fed up with barriers everywhere, nose tests, mandatory masks and being locked down at home. On the other hand, 3 years of constant propaganda made them utterly terrified of Covid: if restriction stop tmr, they will crash the economy by doing nothing at all anymore for fear of getting the virus. It s easy for you to say it s not apocalypti…

I'm in Germany, and even here there are still significant amounts of people who are overly terrified. I've always thought that we (and China even more so) need some public reason for "it's over now". I had hoped vaccines would do that ("yes, it was terrifying, but we have vaccines now, it's safe, you can come back out"), but that wasn't super successful (+ all the people who are now afraid of the vaccines, sigh).

It should work in China though, shouldn't it? Having a large announcement how the great Chinese scientists have discovered the anti-covid-thingy that you just take for 7 days after you've been vaccinated and it makes it much less dangerous etc etc. It allows the government to change their policy without admitting errors ("we no longer need to be zero covid now that we have this new invention") and it also gives people an out that keeps their worldview (that was formed by propaganda) intact but transitions them back to something more normal. Like in a war when some behaviors got enforced and normalized ("no lights in the dark, the bombers will see it") that become unnecessary once the war is over.

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

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Why?

Chinese people would see no one with masks, so they could question their government policy.

While I’ve no doubt of the post’s veracity, your comment isn’t accurate. Mask wearing isn’t common in a lot of China specifically because of their zero covid policy. Either there’s no positive tests in your area so there’s no reason to wear masks, or there are positive tests and everyone’s locked inside their homes.

It varies though. I watch a lot of Chinese city walking videos and for example in Beijing lots of people (inexplicably given the above) wear masks, whereas in smaller cities like Guiyang almost nobody is.

Re: China state CCTV avoids crowd close ups at the World Cup

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What is the CCP’s exit strategy? Could they feasibly claim to have eradicated covid?

I see two options: 1. Figure out a working vaccine of their own (or maybe just license and rebrand a western one) 2. Become increasingly authoritarian - like a high-tech North Korea

China already has several highly effective vaccines. The problem is that a significant fraction of elderly people don't want to get vaccinated.

Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore had the exact same problem with vaccine hesitancy among the elderly. It's a cultural thing.

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