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Re: FreeTube – A Private YouTube Client

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Post by colinsane »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #40
InCityDreams wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My cookies dont persist. I do steps 1, 2, and 3 - almost daily. And that, to me, is a pain. As you say, "self-inflicted" - i can't help but think of the guy-on-the bicycle-meme. No snark intended, but your steps 4-7 (2fa+) seem remarkably...unnecessary for youtube?

It's not just YouTube; they are signing into their Google Account.

yeah, if Youtube wasn’t connected to my old gmail account which secures way too much of my life, i wouldn’t use 2FA. now that you point it out i should rather create a separate account specifically for Youtube, which wouldn’t need 2FA.

Re: FreeTube – A Private YouTube Client

#42

Post by elashri »

mirkules wrote: post #37

I use Musi on iOS. Ability to play in the background, save playlists locally, no YouTube ads (just ads on screen in the app while music plays in the background, for non-paid versions), and no link to your YouTube account. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/musi-simple-music-streaming/id...

The app is tracking location and user information

Re: FreeTube – A Private YouTube Client

#44

Post by InCityDreams »

_carbyau_ wrote: post #30
ramonezy wrote: post #25

I think as developers we have to be careful that we don't overstep logical boundaries. Youtube provides a free service that hosts immense volumes of video and creates an ecosystem allowing creators to earn a living. It's selfish to use the services of YouTube while removing their main source of revenue. If you have a problem with YouTube's tracking, simply don't use it

The problem here is "network effect" leverage on society. When you choose not to use Youtube, you are choosing to not be a part of a large part of society. This is isolating. Whether that isolation matters to the individual in question is highly variable. You might be able to easily forego it. But a kid - ostensibly uninformed, not able to reason well enough and "not able to consent" - who's teacher sets an assignmen…

>When you choose not to use Youtube, you are choosing to not be a part of a large part of society.

How would using freetube solve this problem?

Re: FreeTube – A Private YouTube Client

#45

Post by jayshua »

colinsane wrote: post #29
sourcecodeplz wrote: post #21

I don't mind Youtube making a profile of me and recommending similar things. But then again I use youtube to watch channels I'm subscribed to and maybe once a week I watch the recommended stuff.

i just find the youtube login process terrible. my browser doesn’t persist cookies, so i have to re-login every day. not problematic for most sites that use a single login form (like HN) and play nice with a password manager. but for Youtube its: 1. go to login page. 2. enter username, hit enter. 3. enter password, hit enter. 4. at the 2FA page hunt for the “other method” option and click it. 5. select “authenticate…

I had the same pain until I started using Firefox containers. Now I can persist cookies for just YouTube without keeping them for any other sites or making the Google cookies available to Google when I'm browsing other sites using the non-youtube container.

Re: FreeTube – A Private YouTube Client

#46

Post by comprev »

elashri wrote: post #42
mirkules wrote: post #37

I use Musi on iOS. Ability to play in the background, save playlists locally, no YouTube ads (just ads on screen in the app while music plays in the background, for non-paid versions), and no link to your YouTube account. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/musi-simple-music-streaming/id...

The app is tracking location and user information

I've looked in iOS settings and can't see anything other than mobile data on/off and Siri?

Re: FreeTube – A Private YouTube Client

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Post by elashri »

comprev wrote: post #46
elashri wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The app is tracking location and user information

I've looked in iOS settings and can't see anything other than mobile data on/off and Siri?

Apps now require to report what they collect and what tracking they are using. This information is available on app store page of the app.

Re: FreeTube – A Private YouTube Client

#48

Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #27
ramonezy wrote: post #25

I think as developers we have to be careful that we don't overstep logical boundaries. Youtube provides a free service that hosts immense volumes of video and creates an ecosystem allowing creators to earn a living. It's selfish to use the services of YouTube while removing their main source of revenue. If you have a problem with YouTube's tracking, simply don't use it

This is how I feel about all the bold circumvention of paywalls. It’s a legally fuzzy area in some cases, but to me at least, it is basically people saying, “here, let me help you steal!”

YouTube could kill all of this by simply forcing a login to watch anything but they won't because they're cowards.

Re: FreeTube – A Private YouTube Client

#49

Post by sokoloff »

InCityDreams wrote: post #44
_carbyau_ wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem here is "network effect" leverage on society. When you choose not to use Youtube, you are choosing to not be a part of a large part of society. This is isolating. Whether that isolation matters to the individual in question is highly variable. You might be able to easily forego it. But a kid - ostensibly uninformed, not able to reason well enough and "not able to consent" - who's teacher sets an assignmen…

>When you choose not to use Youtube, you are choosing to not be a part of a large part of society. How would using freetube solve this problem?

It lets you watch the content otherwise available on YouTube without all the ads and tracking that comes with using the YouTube site or app.

Re: FreeTube – A Private YouTube Client

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Post by fijiaarone »

Waterluvian wrote: post #27
ramonezy wrote: post #25

I think as developers we have to be careful that we don't overstep logical boundaries. Youtube provides a free service that hosts immense volumes of video and creates an ecosystem allowing creators to earn a living. It's selfish to use the services of YouTube while removing their main source of revenue. If you have a problem with YouTube's tracking, simply don't use it

This is how I feel about all the bold circumvention of paywalls. It’s a legally fuzzy area in some cases, but to me at least, it is basically people saying, “here, let me help you steal!”

That’s rich coming from someone defending a site that existed for a decade purely on helping people to steal copyrighted content until they had a monopoly and were able to force copyright holders to license it to them.
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